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Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:16 am
by Odenathus
Hi

I've just opened my first user-designed scenario - Phillipi - in Epic Battles, and several units have turned completely blue! They weren't like that when I sent in the scenario, and I'd playtested it in both MP and SP. Is that what everyone else sees, and what's caused it? Can I have altered my Settings somehow?

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:44 am
by jomni
Most probably a texture mismatch.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:05 am
by Paul59
It looked ok for me when I opened it. You don't have any modded units in the scenario, so I can't think what is causing the problem. I sometimes get blue units when I mod units, I think it is something to do with the texture names.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:15 am
by rbodleyscott
Blue means it cannot find the texture. It looks fine on my machine. Perhaps you have inadvertently changed something on yours - try redownloading it.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:42 am
by Odenathus
Thanks all, sort of thing that gives a man a bit of a shock.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:06 pm
by Patrick Ward
If you've not fixed it you'd best post a screen shot. There's a number of reasons they can turn blue but they all look distinctly different.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm
by Hoplite1963
Hi All
Had the same thing with the Romano - Britons in my Mons Badonicus scenario. Wonder if it something to do with the fact that the Romano - Britons get blue unit and leader flags. When you in the editor you can change the textures around fine but in the game (where the texture was available) the system wanted to give everybody blue helmet crests and shield blazons.

Regards

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:49 pm
by rbodleyscott
Hoplite1963 wrote:Hi All
Had the same thing with the Romano - Britons in my Mons Badonicus scenario. Wonder if it something to do with the fact that the Romano - Britons get blue unit and leader flags. When you in the editor you can change the textures around fine but in the game (where the texture was available) the system wanted to give everybody blue helmet crests and shield blazons.

Regards
It is a bit difficult to say anything about this since we don't know what units you are using, whether you have modded any etc.etc. Can you give us more information? And a screenshot.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:24 pm
by Hoplite1963
Hi Richard

Thanks for you reply. Not done any modding but have changed the unit names. The units that I am using are effected.
Armoured Noble Cavalry. Militia Thureophoroi and Thorakitai.

Interestingly all 3 have a red themed default choice and a blue alternate texture. Also side O are the Saxons and side 1 the Romano British.
Regards

Ian

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:12 pm
by rbodleyscott
Hoplite1963 wrote:Hi Richard

Thanks for you reply. Not done any modding but have changed the unit names. The units that I am using are effected.
Armoured Noble Cavalry. Militia Thureophoroi and Thorakitai.

Interestingly all 3 have a red themed default choice and a blue alternate texture. Also side O are the Saxons and side 1 the Romano British.
Regards

Ian
It is probably easiest if you send me a zip of your whole custom folder by email.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:01 am
by Paul59
Hi Ian,

I am a bit puzzled. I did not see any thing wrong with the textures in the scenario that you sent to me.

Do you mean that your units have blue themed textures?

If so, that is just the game allocating the side 1 textures to your AI army. That is what happens when you use the standard .BSF file in your scenario, it overides any texture allocations that you make in the editor.

If you don't want this to happen, you just need to disable the Reskin lines in the .bsf file by putting // in front of them.

Odenathus started this thread to discuss a quite different issue that occurs when the game cannot find the texture it needs, which results in the unit turning completely a bright horrible shade of blue.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:09 pm
by Hoplite1963
Thanks guys I will try taking out the auto coding.

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:31 pm
by Paul59
Hoplite1963 wrote:Thanks guys I will try taking out the auto coding.
Hi Ian,

If you open the scenario.bsf file you will find this section near the end:

// Reskin armies to randomly use available variant textures. If both sides have the same unit type, the two sides will use different variant textures for that unit if more than 1 texture exists.
// Comment out the two lines below if you don't want variant textures to be automatically applied.
// If you want to reverse which side gets which set of variant textures, change the second parameter to 1. This is useful to make the same army use the same texture set in reversed scenarios.
ReSkinArmy(0, 0);
ReSkinArmy(1, 0);


You just need to put // in front of the ReSkinArmy lines that you want to disable, so that it looks like this

// Reskin armies to randomly use available variant textures. If both sides have the same unit type, the two sides will use different variant textures for that unit if more than 1 texture exists.
// Comment out the two lines below if you don't want variant textures to be automatically applied.
// If you want to reverse which side gets which set of variant textures, change the second parameter to 1. This is useful to make the same army use the same texture set in reversed scenarios.
//ReSkinArmy(0, 0);
//ReSkinArmy(1, 0);

Note that the ReSkinArmy(0, 0); is for the player's army (side 0), and the ReSkinArmy(1, 0); is for the AI army (side 1). So you can decide to have both armies use Reskin, neither, or one use Reskin and the other not.

Blimey! I hope that makes sense!

Re: Eeek! Figures turning blue?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:29 pm
by Hoplite1963
Hi Paul
Thanks very much for this.