Digital League Season 9 Battles

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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:24 pm

Even the Indian light chariots do pretty well charging the Sparabara because the latter are bowmen, not MF. So although the light chariots are the bow variety, not light Spear, they get 50 for quality and 100 on open vs bowmen on Impact, vs 100 light Spear.

Otherwise, it's a tough matchup for the Indians; between two equally skilled players I think it's basically impossible for the Indians, but if you get matched against someone even a little less skilled I think it can be pulled off with flank attacks etc.
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:43 pm

New 10/31

vs pompeytheflatulent
https://youtu.be/ubcs0vf7Q1I
Lydian 687-551BC
vs
Greek 680-461BC
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:29 pm

New 11/2

vs pantherboy
https://youtu.be/K90FwnwjmdQ
Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
vs
Indian (Hindu North) 600-1049AD
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:35 pm

New 11/5

vs nyczar
https://youtu.be/kPYQFzOxZyY
Egyptian 664-571BC
vs
Kushite Egyptian 727-656BC
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by pompeytheflatulent » Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:39 pm

SnuggleBunnies wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:43 pm
New 10/31

vs pompeytheflatulent
https://youtu.be/ubcs0vf7Q1I
Lydian 687-551BC
vs
Greek 680-461BC
This battle was always going to favor the Greeks due to the lack of rough ground for the Lydians to use their irregular foot. The only thing I can come up with after watching this video is that when you have the smaller army, you have to play aggressively. Sitting on the defensive gives your opponent time to bring his whole army to bear against you. Better to move fast and try to overwhelm a portion of the enemy army before the rest of it can get into the fight. So maybe instead of moving to the right to match my movements, swing your whole army to the left and try to crush my right wing before the left can get into the fight.

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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:04 am

pompeytheflatulent wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:39 pm
This battle was always going to favor the Greeks due to the lack of rough ground for the Lydians to use their irregular foot. The only thing I can come up with after watching this video is that when you have the smaller army, you have to play aggressively. Sitting on the defensive gives your opponent time to bring his whole army to bear against you. Better to move fast and try to overwhelm a portion of the enemy army before the rest of it can get into the fight. So maybe instead of moving to the right to match my movements, swing your whole army to the left and try to crush my right wing before the left can get into the fight.
Hmm, good call. I do seem to have become too fixated on the marginal advantage the slope could confer at the cost of gaining a local advantage.
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:58 am

New 11/8

vs XLegione
https://youtu.be/nSM6Etwt85Y
Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
vs
Arab (Conquest) 638-684AD
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:15 am

New 11/13

vs nyczar
https://youtu.be/HMDwyRIPg9U
Kushite Egyptian 727-656BC
vs
Egyptian 664-571BC
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by kronenblatt » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:25 pm

SnuggleBunnies wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:15 am
New 11/13

vs nyczar
https://youtu.be/HMDwyRIPg9U
Kushite Egyptian 727-656BC
vs
Egyptian 664-571BC
Really entertaining game to watch: thanks! Not only because it was so close and dramatic, but primarily because of the different tactical twists and tries from both of you (like a schoolbook on various tactics), along with you commenting on what to do and why, etc. :)
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:26 am

kronenblatt wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:25 pm
Really entertaining game to watch: thanks! Not only because it was so close and dramatic, but primarily because of the different tactical twists and tries from both of you (like a schoolbook on various tactics), along with you commenting on what to do and why, etc. :)
It was a fine, close game, glad you enjoyed. My last two matches of this season are drawing down; hopefully season 10 will have a High Medieval section!
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:05 pm

New 11/28

vs Sennacherib
https://youtu.be/pR8YUeW9uJY
Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
vs
Arab (Umayyad) 685-750AD with Moorish 350-698AD allies
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by Sennacherib » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:49 am

it was impossible for me to win that game, even with a better army composition i still figured it out what to do....

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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:31 pm

Sennacherib wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:49 am
it was impossible for me to win that game, even with a better army composition i still figured it out what to do....
If you're interested, I can post a mirror match with the same factions and we give it another go.
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by Sennacherib » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:15 pm

yep let's go this, it will be interesting !

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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:06 pm

Sennacherib wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:15 pm
yep let's go this, it will be interesting !
Game is up, pw: snuggles
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:11 pm

New 12/1

vs Triarii
https://youtu.be/RgaMEbYAZ6Y
Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
vs
Dailami 928-1055AD with Arab Syria/Iraq 890-1008AD allies

And that's all for Season 9! So in total:

Biblical Division A
5 wins
5 losses

Biblical was 5 paired mirror matches of historical pairings. I enjoyed this format, as I think it encouraged aggression by both sides - no fear of someone camping out with the better army here. It does seem that Pete may have figured out a way to have the standard format with just the vanilla armies for Season 10. That would be nice - TableTop mod is wonderful, but the inclusion of so many hoplite armies in the past set the wrong tone for the section, I thought. Special shoutouts in this section for harveylh and pompeytheflatulent for thoroughly outplaying me in both matches.

Early Middle Ages Division A - Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
4 wins
2 draws
3 losses

In Early Middle Ages, I had mostly picked what I thought to be competitive armies, but also threw in the Byzantines, which I rolled. I don't think this Byzantine list is *bad* - but neither is it top tier. At least in League stats, it is mediocre. Top tier armies in EMA have Veteran Muslim Spearmen and hopefully also light cavalry superiority. This list performed very strongly against shooty lists (see pantherboy's brave choice of Indians). It could do well against melee infantry heavy lists, on Open maps (see the desperately close match against XLegione's Arab Conquest, or CONSTANTINIX's Vikings in Ireland - which, to my great regret, I played in Season 8). But it struggled against well commanded combined armed forces with a strong element of melee infantry. The Skoutatoi and Archers just can't do it against true dedicated melee foot. The list gets access to a couple of Dailami units and one Shieldwall, which isn't enough. The shooty Lancers can do okay, but are themselves vulnerable to shooting and have trouble overcoming an enemy in terrain. Special shoutouts to Nosy_Rat and Macedonczyk for just obliterating me.

This is pretty much exactly the sort of performance I predicted from myself going into the season. It's about as well as I did last time, too. I think there is just about always room to get better at the game, and I think I have improved my play. However, so has everyone else, and the player base seems to have expanded nicely, with some really talented players joining us over the course of the last year. Despite receiving some severe hammerings, I'm quite pleased to have once again remained mediocre in the top division. I'm also glad that my two draws were both bloodbaths. The Vikings in Ireland list that I used last season forced some pretty defensive play, and I at least had more options for aggression with Byzantines.

I am hoping we have High Middle Ages for Season 10, which I will certainly enter. Until then, I will enter a few player run tournaments - The West is no More, Little Wars, and Chaos - and post those matches to the channel. Good luck to all of you in Season 10 of the Field of Glory II Digital League, and thanks as always to stockwellpete for his tireless cat-herding I mean management of the tournament.
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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by pompeytheflatulent » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:13 pm

Any chance of getting permission from Slitherine to upload videos of FOG 2 Medieval beta? That'll be nice since right now the only videos out there in youtubeland are from people who don't grasp the game mechanics filling the heads of potential new players with misinformation.

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Re: Digital League Season 9 Battles

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:16 pm

pompeytheflatulent wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:13 pm
Any chance of getting permission from Slitherine to upload videos of FOG 2 Medieval beta? That'll be nice since right now the only videos out there in youtubeland are from people who don't grasp the game mechanics filling the heads of potential new players with misinformation.
Evidently their marketing dept. is on vacation until the 4th, so I plan on asking then. I have been recording several matches in case of approval; if not, I'll put them all out at once on release day.
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