The West is No More (476 AD): general thread

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by olin0111 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:18 pm

kronenblatt wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:05 pm
Not that much yet, but I'm thinking about summing up battle results as a type of running score (with from each battle concluded, the winner getting points = 60 minus incurred routs, and the non-winner(s) getting points = inflicted routs minus incurred routs), plus, also at the end, the (surviving) players getting a bonus based on the number of provinces controlled then.

Although how many points per province controlled, and what will actually end the tournament I don't yet know.

Thoughts, you or anyone? I'm happy to hear suggestions.
Hmm...maybe a simple measure of province balance relative to the starting umber of provinces. This would show how much a certain nation gained or lost in power in comparison to their initial position, who is on the rise at that moment in history etc. We could set a turn limit and then tally the results. We could still sum up the casualties inflicted or incurred after each turn to set the initiative order just like in TYME tournament.

OT: By the way, kronenblatt, will you be able to run the second edition of TYME tournament concurrently to this one (and others)? If so, I believe there are two places left so maybe some of the guys here would be willing to participate.

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by pompeytheflatulent » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:25 pm

I think because the army lists are very much not balanced, this tournament is more about having fun with some amusing role-playing thrown in rather than being strictly competitive. On that note, I am willing to swear fealty as a vassal alongside my vomit-green colored Burgundians to anyone willing to change their map color to burgundy, just to confuse people.

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:30 pm

pompeytheflatulent wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:25 pm
I think because the army lists are very much not balanced, this tournament is more about having fun with some amusing role-playing thrown in rather than being strictly competitive. On that note, I am willing to swear fealty as a vassal alongside my vomit-green colored Burgundians to anyone willing to change their map color to burgundy, just to confuse people.
And since it's never wrong to have fun and actually preferable to being strictly no-fun competitive, let me point out that the burgundy rgb code is (128,0,32) for anyone willing to pick up the offer from pompey. :)
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:04 pm

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deeter is on as well: Welcome! He will be joining as the Ostrogoths: fine? Welcome! And Snugglebunnies gets the Franks assigned to him (at least for the time being). Is that fine, Snugglebunnies?

1. Captainwaltersavage: Italy
2. Snugglebunnies: Franks
3. TomoeGozen: Vandals
4. Aetius39: West Rome
5. pompeytheflatulent: Burgundians
6. olin0111: Soissons
7. deeter: Ostrogoths
8.
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10.
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12. kronenblatt: Visigoths

Four factions left to join: Gepids, Suevians, East Rome, and Alamans. Takers? (Each player gets to choose his/her own RGB code for the map and its provinces. :D )

Please note that you will need to own both of Legions Triumphant and Age of Belisarius DLCs in order to participate.
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:06 am

Oh, they're horrendous but that's fine. Perhaps if I get knocked out early I could command an unclaimed faction?
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:13 am

SnuggleBunnies wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:06 am
Oh, they're horrendous but that's fine. Perhaps if I get knocked out early I could command an unclaimed faction?
You could always choose any other of the four still available? Gepids, Suevians, East Rome, and Alamans.
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:14 pm

Hmm. East Rome if no one else wants them.
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by pompeytheflatulent » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm

Switch my faction to the Franks please, and change my color to hotdog pink.

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:12 pm

pompeytheflatulent wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm
Switch my faction to the Franks please, and change my color to hotdog pink.
Oki, done. And you're now (199,153,144).
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:19 pm

I'm bringing this up now, since not all players like rules complexity and too much distraction from the actual FoG2 battles, so this is in order to give those who prefer it the opportunity to not participate and me the opportunity to know about it in advance.

The rules will be of a complexity somewhat á la Dividing the Spoils (but without Coalition Partners), with the addition of:
  • Several different types of attack declarations with different purposes and effects and availability depending on situation of attacker and defender: Conquest, Punitive Expedition, Annexation, Revolt, Raid, Foreign Invasion, Migration, and Overlord Overthrow.
  • Players can act as Vassals and Overlords to each other.
  • Force Points of battles may vary between battles, depending on e.g. the outcome of previous round's battles, according to a predefined formula (I'll provide support for the calculations, of course).
The tournament works with 4-6 players too (with amendments to the setup), but as always the more the merrier (up to a maximum of 12 players), so please let me know whether you're still interested or not.
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by TomoeGozen » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:45 pm

I am very interested :-)
Can't wait...

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by pompeytheflatulent » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:20 am

Sounds fun. Where are the extra rules for the different types of battles listed? I'm not seeing them on the first page of the divide the spoils thread.

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:04 am

pompeytheflatulent wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:20 am
Sounds fun. Where are the extra rules for the different types of battles listed? I'm not seeing them on the first page of the divide the spoils thread.
It's not listed yet. (And doesn't exist in DiSp.) Wanted to make this sound check on interest in a more complicated setup first, before I assemble the rules (they're all in Excel now, along with FP calculations, etc. :) ).
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by Captainwaltersavage » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:30 pm

I'm happy to give it all a try. I expect to end up being a troublesome vassal quite rapidly. I'm learning a lot from being schooled by better players, so this is another chance to battle some challenging opponents. I'm all for the flavour and characterisation. Expect florid prose, rousing speeches and poor attention to detail (and possibly poor tactics).

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by Karvon » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:46 pm

I'll take the Gepids, if still available, in a bright yellow for my map color.

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:32 am

Karvon wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:46 pm
I'll take the Gepids, if still available, in a bright yellow for my map color.

Karvon
Absolutely: welcome, Karvon!
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:34 am

1. Captainwaltersavage: Italy
2. Snugglebunnies: East Rome
3. TomoeGozen: Vandals
4. Aetius39: West Rome
5. pompeytheflatulent: Franks
6. olin0111: Soissons
7. deeter: Ostrogoths
8. Karvon: Gepids
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12. kronenblatt: Visigoths
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by CyberHetman » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:26 am

Hello,
If it is still possible, I'll join.
I would choose:
Suevians: Germanic Foot Tribes 260-599 AD with Alan 25-650 AD allies

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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by kronenblatt » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:44 am

CyberHetman wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:26 am
Hello,
If it is still possible, I'll join.
I would choose:
Suevians: Germanic Foot Tribes 260-599 AD with Alan 25-650 AD allies
Absolutely: welcome! I see that you joined yesterday. Just come across FoG2?
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Re: The West is No More - a 476 AD tournament idea!

Post by CyberHetman » Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:44 am

kronenblatt wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:44 am
CyberHetman wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:26 am
Hello,
If it is still possible, I'll join.
I would choose:
Suevians: Germanic Foot Tribes 260-599 AD with Alan 25-650 AD allies
Absolutely: welcome! I see that you joined yesterday. Just come across FoG2?
I look new but I've played many times before on my brother's computer (mainly singleplayer and sometimes with my brother).
Now I saw this tournament, found out it good idea so I bought the program myself.

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