FOG II - WTC - recruitment posts

[CyberHetman]

I am in. In Poland team.

[ericdoman1]

Welcome Cyberhetman.

Would you be able to contact your Polish countrymen please to tell them about this.

Go to viewtopic.php?f=477&t=80221 and the last table on page 15

I sent a private message but maybe their English is limited and I do not speak any Polish.

Cheers

Eric

[tyronec]

Hi mates, the recruitment is going very well!
This is a very positive aspect. Now I would like to listen your opinion about the formation of the teams where there is more than one for each nation.

My idea is to leave free the players to aggregate as they prefer.
After the composition of the team, the components have to nominate the captain.

I wait for your feedbak and suggestion.

Ciao

XLegione

My suggestion would be for the organisers to do it based on DL ranking, and if a player has no DL ranking but has played in other competitions then to assign them an appropriate ranking. W25 would be an example of this as he/she has been performing very well in the Swiss tournaments.
Next I would assign people to different teams so as to spread around the higher ranked players. So for example if you have 12 players from the UK playing in 3 teams, them something like:
Team 1. 1,6,7,12
Team 2. 2,5,8,11
Team 3. 3,4,9,10

That way it will be a more fun competition for all with lots of fairly evenly balanced teams. If you allow players to aggregate as they prefer then the best players from the larger countries will congregate together and give them an unfair advantage over a country that just has a pool of say 4 players.
Aetius has been using this sort of approach in the 'There can be only one' tournaments' that he has organised and it makes them that much more interesting to participate in.

[ericdoman1]

Good points TC.

I have prepared a doc with all players rankings and team rankings. I made up teams based on rankings as in the top players play in Team 1, then 2 etc. I think your idea based on Aetius'' campaign is a good one. The only possible flaw is if a single team of 4 players has a high ranking. New Zealand are an example and if Russia bring on board 2 more players, they too may well have a big overall ranking.

Yes to giving players who do well in the tourneys a ranking. I have done it for TaBai and W..., also for Cyberhetman. What do you propose or we could use the system Pete uses for DL. I'll start working on something.

Have you spotted "ELO" rankings on these tourneys? What is it? Where is it? Who would we need to speak with to have a ranking system incorporated into the tournaments.

[ericdoman1]

Hi Gents

UK & Ireland: ericdoman1, Stew101, carpenkm, Challenge1, Captainwaltersavage, IMC, Morbio, Triarii, tyronec, ianiow, Doyley50, lydianed, tmac11
New Zealand: Cunningcairn, rexhurley, oscarius, warg1
Italy: Giacofa93, XLegione, Conteshard, Tratmont, Sarmation, savitel
USA: Aetius39, nyczar, edb1815, ulysisgrunt, harveylh, klayeckles, Karvon, deeter, pbuck777
Spain: mr cholo, Meroka37, lecrop, MarcoCato75
Serbia: MorkinTheFree, joggy, Alkibijad, DzonVejn
Australia: Pantherboy, CheAhn, Markleslie, General Shapur, Rob123, Najanaja, Vakarr, SpeedyCM, bomber23
France: Sennacherib, ramdom27, dim30, sivispacem
Sweden/United Nordic Countries: kronenblatt, hidde
China: cristianwj, wzfcns, TaBai, freemankevin, GCD, w2512494748, 275544491, Gundam1985
Russia: Nosy_rat, Questar17
Greece: GeneralKostas
Canada: w_michael, msaunders865
Poland: kraff, Cyberhetman


Presently we have the following complete teams:
n. 3 UK teams
n. 1 New Zealand team
n. 1 Italy team
n. 2 USA teams
n. 1 Spain team
n. 2 Australian teams
n. 1 France team
n. 2 Chinese teams
n. 1 Serbian team

Please tell your opponents and persuade your fellow countrymen. It's not very often you can represent your country or a region and here's your chance:)

Here is a link to the "Player Location thread". viewtopic.php?f=477&t=80221&start=280

Cheers

Eric

[tyronec]

The only possible flaw is if a single team of 4 players has a high ranking. New Zealand are an example and if Russia bring on board 2 more players, they too may well have a big overall ranking.

Any system is not going to be perfect, what was suggested is intended as an improvement on a free for all. If the Kiwis are inherently more gifted at war games as they are at rugby compared to us Europeans then they will have an advantage.

[gundam1985]

I'm in for China, PM me.

[ericdoman1]

Welcome Gundam1985 and now China has 2 teams.

[XLegione]

Hi mates, the recruitment is going very well!
This is a very positive aspect. Now I would like to listen your opinion about the formation of the teams where there is more than one for each nation.

My idea is to leave free the players to aggregate as they prefer.
After the composition of the team, the components have to nominate the captain.

I wait for your feedbak and suggestion.

Ciao

XLegione

My suggestion would be for the organisers to do it based on DL ranking, and if a player has no DL ranking but has played in other competitions then to assign them an appropriate ranking. W25 would be an example of this as he/she has been performing very well in the Swiss tournaments.
Next I would assign people to different teams so as to spread around the higher ranked players. So for example if you have 12 players from the UK playing in 3 teams, them something like:
Team 1. 1,6,7,12
Team 2. 2,5,8,11
Team 3. 3,4,9,10

That way it will be a more fun competition for all with lots of fairly evenly balanced teams. If you allow players to aggregate as they prefer then the best players from the larger countries will congregate together and give them an unfair advantage over a country that just has a pool of say 4 players.
Aetius has been using this sort of approach in the 'There can be only one' tournaments' that he has organised and it makes them that much more interesting to participate in.

Tyronec, very interesting proposal.
The most important point is method to create the ranking of the players, we have to find a "smart" method.
Another point is the philosophy behind the participation to the WTC, I agree with you about the spirit about fun competition for all with lots of fairly evenly balanced teams.
At the end is a game and all the players deserve to represent their country

[ericdoman1]

Latest player ratings . . .
Post by stockwellpete » 27 Apr 2021 09:48

Here are the latest ratings provided by Anders (hidde). They include data from Seasons 8, 9 and 10.

Here is the link scroll down to above table - viewtopic.php?f=501&t=84945&start=40

[XLegione]

Of course there are different opinions and point of view, my purpose is to create a real fun, nice and balanced event, with the possibility to have Slitherine support and large numbers of national teams and attending players.
I invite to share opinions, ideas and everything could be useful to prepare the best event possible.
The contribute of the community is needed, more heads on the topic mean better solutions for this first experience.

Ciao
XLegione

P.S.
please, pardon me if the level of my English is not so good, I hope my concepts are clear enough for everybody

Ciao

XLegione

[Giacofa93]

Honestly I wouldn't mind, for nations with more than 1 team, to have them organized as a "1st team" with the highest rated players, "2nd team" with lower rated players and so on. Then the 1st team would be on par with a country with just 4 very high rated players, while the other teams would still have reason to compete for higher positions, after all, rating isn't everything. And maybe a smaller country with no chance to beat "UK team 1" could still make their flag proud by winning against "UK Team 2".

But anyway and after all, the important is to have fun!

[DzonVejn]

Serbia: MorkinTheFree, joggy

Team Serbia will be: MorkinTheFree, joggy, Alkibijad, DzonVejn

[ericdoman1]

Cheers guys

[XLegione]

Last Update
Serbia team complete! Another very good news.

UK & Ireland: ericdoman1, Stew101, carpenkm, Challenge1, Captainwaltersavage, IMC, Morbio, Triarii, tyronec, ianiow, Doyley50, lydianed, tmac11
New Zealand: Cunningcairn, rexhurley, oscarius, warg1
Italy: Giacofa93, XLegione, Conteshard, Tratmot, Sarmation, savitel
USA: Aetius39, nyczar, edb1815, ulysisgrunt, harveylh, klayeckles, Karvon, deeter, pbuck777
Spain: mr cholo, Meroka37, lecrop, MarcoCato75
Serbia: MorkinTheFree, joggy, Alkibijad, DzonVejn
Australia: Pantherboy, CheAhn, Markleslie, General Shapur, Rob123, Najanaja, Vakarr, SpeedyCM, bomber23
France: Sennacherib, ramdom27, dim30, sivispacem
Sweden/United Nordic Countries: kronenblatt, hidde
China: cristianwj, wzfcns, TaBai, freemankevin, GCD, w2512494748, 275544491, Gundam1985
Russia: Nosy_rat, Questar17
Greece: GeneralKostas
Canada: w_michael, msaunders865
Poland: kraff, Cyberhetman


Presently we have the following complete teams:
n. 3 UK teams
n. 1 New Zealand team
n. 1 Italy team
n. 2 USA teams
n. 1 Spain team
n. 2 Australian teams
n. 1 France team
n. 2 Chinese teams
n. 1 Serbian team

14 teams ready to play

[XLegione]

Presentation of the WTC sent to Slitherine

[XLegione]

second part

[Geffalrus]

Another member of Team America: World Police, reporting in.

[Captainwaltersavage]

Of course there are different opinions and point of view, my purpose is to create a real fun, nice and balanced event, with the possibility to have Slitherine support and large numbers of national teams and attending players.
I invite to share opinions, ideas and everything could be useful to prepare the best event possible.
The contribute of the community is needed, more heads on the topic mean better solutions for this first experience.

Ciao
XLegione

P.S.
please, pardon me if the level of my English is not so good, I hope my concepts are clear enough for everybody

Ciao

XLegione

My main fun will be to play against opponents who I might otherwise not get to play. That will happen regardless of who else is in my team. I would prefer it if all the best players were in the A team and I was put in a B team (or a C team) with the other optimistic duffers. Then if (when) I lose I won't feel like I am letting the side down. I'll have the most fun that way. I will try to win but I'm nowhere good enough to compete with the best players consistently. I think the people that win would like it to be because their team was able to beat the very best opposition. Otherwise it would be a hollow title.

[ericdoman1]

G'day All

Welcome Geffalrus, "Goo goo g'joob?"

CWS, thanks for the reply, you are being a bit humble about your ability:)

UK & Ireland: ericdoman1, Stew101, carpenkm, Challenge1, Captainwaltersavage, IMC, Morbio, Triarii, tyronec, ianiow, Doyley50, lydianed, tmac11
New Zealand: Cunningcairn, rexhurley, oscarius, warg1
Italy: Giacofa93, XLegione, Conteshard, Tratmot, Sarmation, savitel
USA: Aetius39, nyczar, edb1815, ulysisgrunt, harveylh, klayeckles, Karvon, deeter, pbuck777, Geffalrus
Spain: mr cholo, Meroka37, lecrop, MarcoCato75
Serbia: MorkinTheFree, joggy, Alkibijad, DzonVejn
Australia: Pantherboy, CheAhn, Markleslie, General Shapur, Rob123, Najanaja, Vakarr, SpeedyCM, bomber23
France: Sennacherib, ramdom27, dim30, sivispacem
Sweden/United Nordic Countries: kronenblatt, hidde
China: cristianwj, wzfcns, TaBai, freemankevin, GCD, w2512494748, 275544491, Gundam1985
Russia: Nosy_rat, Questar17
Greece: GeneralKostas
Canada: w_michael, msaunders865
Poland: kraff, Cyberhetman


Presently we have the following complete teams:
n. 3 UK teams
n. 1 New Zealand team
n. 1 Italy team
n. 2 USA teams
n. 1 Spain team
n. 2 Australian teams
n. 1 France team
n. 2 Chinese teams
n. 1 Serbian team

14 teams ready to play