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Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:31 am

Q: Just clarifying but my reading of the rules is that we need to specify in each game in Early Middle Ages whether we want a 1200 or 1600 points so don't need to specify at this stage which we prefer. This allows some tactical nous when selecting army size v different opponents. Or have I completely read this incorrectly?

A: No, you need to indicate at the beginning of the season which size armies you wish to use in this section. The default size is 1200pts so 1600pts will only be used if both players have nominated 1600pts.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by kronenblatt » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:54 am

Q1: Does "...Note: the armies in bold text are from those nations that have an exemption from the “one army per nation in each division” rule and they will be allowed two armies in any division. They are the Achaemenid Persians, Carthaginians, Diadochi, Greeks, Romans and Thracians..." mean that in each division there can be two Achaemenid Persian armies, two Carthaginian armies, etc.?
Q2. But still from different time periods then, right? (So not two Carthaginian 262-236 BC armies in the same division, for example?)
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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:01 am

kronenblatt wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:54 am
Q1: Does "...Note: the armies in bold text are from those nations that have an exemption from the “one army per nation in each division” rule and they will be allowed two armies in any division. They are the Achaemenid Persians, Carthaginians, Diadochi, Greeks, Romans and Thracians..." mean that in each division there can be two Achaemenid Persian armies, two Carthaginian armies, etc.?
Yes.
Q2. But still from different time periods then, right? (So not two Carthaginian 262-236 BC armies in the same division, for example?)
Yes.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:43 pm

Change to army selection procedure update

Some more information is available now regarding the new rule that requires players to pick a different army and allies from season to season in each section that they enter (e.g. if you have used, say, a Roman army with Jewish allies in one section, then you cannot use a Roman or Jewish army or Roman or Jewish allies in that section in the next season.)

There are just a few clarifications needed beyond this basic rule, I think, where nations have several different variations . . .

Classical Antiquity - the Diadochi group of armies count as one "nation" in our tournament, so anyone using, say, Antigonid in one season cannot use another Diadochi army in the next season (there are other pike options available, particularly Pyrrhic, and also now the two earliest Seleucid armies that have been removed from the Diadochi group and they have have a few pike units). Greeks includes Mercenary and Western; and Thracian includes Getae, Hellenistic, Triballi, Hellenistic Getae and Gallic.

Late Antiquity - Hunnic includes Western and Sabir; Dacian includes Dacian Carpi.

Early Middle Ages - Anglo-Saxon includes Continental Saxon; Arab includes Conquest, Umayyad, Abbasid, North Africa and Syria/Iraq; and Viking includes Viking (Ireland).

To give another example to spell it out very clearly - if you pick Arab Abbasid army in one season then that means you cannot use another Arab army in the next season you enter the tournament, either as your main army or as allies. Not Arab Conquest, or Umayyads or whatever. The prohibition is only for one season (unlike LOEG in FOG1 where it was for 3 seasons) so the prohibition has been applied more broadly.

Q: Will you be applying this in full?

A: Yes

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by PepeSlitherine » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:47 pm

These are basic questions.
We have chosen four armies.
· If I am the only person with my first selection army in my Division, should I play all the games with this army?
· If I am not the only person with my first selection army in my Division, should I play all the games with my second army?

What I'm trying to say (I'm spaniard), how I will know which army I must play of my four armies?

Thank you.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:13 pm

PepeSlitherine wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:47 pm
These are basic questions.
We have chosen four armies.
· If I am the only person with my first selection army in my Division, should I play all the games with this army?
Yes.
· If I am not the only person with my first selection army in my Division, should I play all the games with my second army?

What I'm trying to say (I'm spaniard), how I will know which army I must play of my four armies?

Thank you.
Yes, if you are the only player in your division with the second army. I will allocate the armies to everyone next week. It will be done in exactly the same way as in Season 8.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by Nosy_Rat » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:36 pm

Are allies outside of the section's timeframe allowed? I.e army in Classical taking as allies the list that belongs to Late Antiquity.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:42 pm

Nosy_Rat wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:36 pm
Are allies outside of the section's timeframe allowed? I.e army in Classical taking as allies the list that belongs to Late Antiquity.
Generally, I would like to keep allies to their specific section, but occasionally the dates for an ally crosses the divide between two sections. In those circumstances I usually will allow them. Do you have an example in mind?

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by Nosy_Rat » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:46 pm

stockwellpete wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:42 pm
Nosy_Rat wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:36 pm
Are allies outside of the section's timeframe allowed? I.e army in Classical taking as allies the list that belongs to Late Antiquity.
Generally, I would like to keep allies to their specific section, but occasionally the dates for an ally crosses the divide between two sections. In those circumstances I usually will allow them. Do you have an example in mind?
I was thinking about Numidian or Moorish 55 BC- 6 AD with Roman 24 BC–196 AD allies.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:50 pm

Nosy_Rat wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:46 pm
I was thinking about Numidian or Moorish 55 BC- 6 AD with Roman 24 BC–196 AD allies.
Yes, that will be OK. The dates overlap both sections. :wink:

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by kronenblatt » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:02 pm

stockwellpete wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:50 pm
Nosy_Rat wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:46 pm
I was thinking about Numidian or Moorish 55 BC- 6 AD with Roman 24 BC–196 AD allies.
Yes, that will be OK. The dates overlap both sections. :wink:
What are the dividing dates between the sections?
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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:52 pm

kronenblatt wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:02 pm
What are the dividing dates between the sections?
Biblical Age 3200BC - 601BC
Classical Antiquity 600BC – 1BC
Later Antiquity 0AD - 599AD
Early Middle Ages 600AD - 1099AD
High Middle Ages 1100AD – 1500 AD

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by kronenblatt » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:17 pm

Q: What's the proper (in DL at least) way of reporting results, when it comes to inflicted or suffered casualties? (Example: X has routed Y, inflicting 42% in routs and suffering 15%.)

X defeats Y 42-15%

or

X defeats Y 15-42%

Not that it makes much difference in practice, but I've seen both styles.
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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:20 pm

kronenblatt wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:17 pm
Q: What's the proper (in DL at least) way of reporting results, when it comes to inflicted or suffered casualties? (Example: X has routed Y, inflicting 42% in routs and suffering 15%.)

X defeats Y 42-15%

or

X defeats Y 15-42%

Not that it makes much difference in practice, but I've seen both styles.
42-15.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by Blagrot » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:12 am

In biblical do you want the match results up individually or should we wait until both halves of the mirror match are done before we report it? If it's the latter, will this make any difference to the time control?

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:56 am

Blagrot wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:12 am
In biblical do you want the match results up individually or should we wait until both halves of the mirror match are done before we report it? If it's the latter, will this make any difference to the time control?

Thanks
Blagrot
Yes, report the results individually please. Some players will play simultaneously, others consecutively. :wink:

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by kronenblatt » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:08 pm

stockwellpete wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:53 am
Biblical

Instructions

This is the first season of a revamped Biblical section. The old divisions of ten players has been replaced by smaller six player divisions, where each player will play five historically themed “mirror matches” against the other players in their division.
Here are the five historical match-ups that will be used in Season 9 . . .

Egyptian 664-571BC v Kushite 727-656BC (Invasion of Lower Egypt 664BC)
Median 836-627BC v Skythian 750-551BC (Skythian invasion 653BC)
Greek 680-461BC v Lydian 687-551BC (Campaign 615BC)
Assyrian 681-609BC v Babylonian 626-539BC with Median allies (Fall of Assyria 613BC)
Indian 500BC-319AD v Persian 545-481BC (Persian invasion 518-516BC)

Please note: armies are 1200 points for this section.
Should games be set up as actual mirror matches, or as individual battles, first player 1 with army A vs player 2 with army B and then player 1 with army B vs player 2 with army A? The former will mean same map, but latter may mean more variety and fun, at the expense of possible unfairness when terrain is generated in the two different maps.
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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:54 pm

kronenblatt wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:08 pm
stockwellpete wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:53 am
Biblical

Instructions

This is the first season of a revamped Biblical section. The old divisions of ten players has been replaced by smaller six player divisions, where each player will play five historically themed “mirror matches” against the other players in their division.
Here are the five historical match-ups that will be used in Season 9 . . .

Egyptian 664-571BC v Kushite 727-656BC (Invasion of Lower Egypt 664BC)
Median 836-627BC v Skythian 750-551BC (Skythian invasion 653BC)
Greek 680-461BC v Lydian 687-551BC (Campaign 615BC)
Assyrian 681-609BC v Babylonian 626-539BC with Median allies (Fall of Assyria 613BC)
Indian 500BC-319AD v Persian 545-481BC (Persian invasion 518-516BC)

Please note: armies are 1200 points for this section.
Should games be set up as actual mirror matches, or as individual battles, first player 1 with army A vs player 2 with army B and then player 1 with army B vs player 2 with army A? The former will mean same map, but latter may mean more variety and fun, at the expense of possible unfairness when terrain is generated in the two different maps.
Yes, as actual mirror matches please.

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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by kronenblatt » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:14 pm

stockwellpete wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:54 pm
kronenblatt wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:08 pm
stockwellpete wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:53 am
Biblical

Instructions

This is the first season of a revamped Biblical section. The old divisions of ten players has been replaced by smaller six player divisions, where each player will play five historically themed “mirror matches” against the other players in their division.
Here are the five historical match-ups that will be used in Season 9 . . .

Egyptian 664-571BC v Kushite 727-656BC (Invasion of Lower Egypt 664BC)
Median 836-627BC v Skythian 750-551BC (Skythian invasion 653BC)
Greek 680-461BC v Lydian 687-551BC (Campaign 615BC)
Assyrian 681-609BC v Babylonian 626-539BC with Median allies (Fall of Assyria 613BC)
Indian 500BC-319AD v Persian 545-481BC (Persian invasion 518-516BC)

Please note: armies are 1200 points for this section.
Should games be set up as actual mirror matches, or as individual battles, first player 1 with army A vs player 2 with army B and then player 1 with army B vs player 2 with army A? The former will mean same map, but latter may mean more variety and fun, at the expense of possible unfairness when terrain is generated in the two different maps.
Yes, as actual mirror matches please.
Oki, will do: thanks for clarification.
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Re: Any questions . . .

Post by desertedfox » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:16 pm

Pete,

In Biblical, how to determine which historical matchup to play against which opponent?

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