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Re: Poll on army selection rules

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:32 am

The original proposal has now been edited to take into account the revised army lists for Season 6 and the omission of the Thracian group of armies.

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by XLegione » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:00 am

Div A

XLegione Seleucid defeatead Cunningcairn Macedonian 68% - 36%

Greek internal affair resolved ;-) very tough game and great opponent ;-)

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Re: Poll on army selection rules

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:24 am

GeneralKostas wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:34 am
Good morning,

The problem is to avoid unhistorical and anachronistic matcups between armies of different centuries. I have noticed that in the current league with my Greek army in the Classical Antiquity section and other sections of course.

My proposal :

The player with the highest rank in each division should choose the 4 armies as usual. When Pete choose the army for the nine games, then the rest of the players should choose the 4 armies according to this army. You can find the suitable army when you set up a Custom game and hit the DATE button ON below the army list. The list is shorten with armies in related centuries. You should choose two armies of the same nation in that list if it is possible.

I think that with this rule we can play more antagonistic games between realistic opponents.

Have a good day!!

Again this is interesting. The awkward thing is that, as the tournament organiser, I have to deal with between 60 and 70 players, so the procedures for them all signing up and choosing armies and then for me forming up the divisions and allocating armies has to be straightforward and quick. The time between the last few people signing up and the tournament starting is around a week and sometimes I am not sure how many divisions there are going to be in a section until then.

If I have to wait until I have formed up the divisions before I can begin the process of choosing and allocating the armies it is going to make things very rushed and it would require all players to respond very quickly to what is happening on the forum. The problem is that not all players read the forum regularly so there are likely to be delays to the start of some divisions.

I have just been thinking how it might work in practice . . .

1) recruitment would open and players would indicate which sections they wanted to join without choosing any armies at first
2) about half-way though the recruitment period, once I had got a "critical mass" of players signing up so that I had a fairly good idea how many divisions would be running in each section, I would start to draw up provisional divisions. I would say that I can tell which division a player will end up in about 75% of the time by this stage. If you came, say, 6th in Division A, or 5th in Division C last time, and you are entering the same section again, then the odds are very likely that you will be playing at the same level in the coming season too
3) from these provisional divisions of 5 or 6 players I would choose one player to pick an army they want to use in the coming season (I can use my bingo kit to choose the player) and then I would post their choice on the forum with a "historically relevant" list of armies that could be used by the other players
4) players would then make their 4 army selections by editing their original post in the recruitment thread. Players signing up for the tournament at this stage would choose their armies from the list
5) I would then form up the divisions and allocate the armies in the same way as I do now by using the FOG2DL ratings

The weakness in this procedure is at stage 2. What if the player who nominated the army needed to be moved to a different division at the last moment? What if I thought there would be 4 divisions, but in the end there were only three? This definitely would happen from time to time. So it would not be a watertight system, whereas what we have now is fairly robust.

Obviously player choices would be more restricted with this system, but the advantage would be to give more historical match-ups. Any comments?

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Rob123 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:38 am

Division D

Rob123 (Romano British) defeats eobrian (Kushan) 60:57

(3-1)

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Re: Late Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by Rob123 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:44 am

Division D

Rob123 (Romano British) challenges bomber23 (Ostrogoths)

PW bomb PM sent

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Re: Classical Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by harveylh » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:08 pm

klayeckles wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:26 am
Div A
final challenges for klay:


harveylh - Ptolemaic 166-56 BC

pantherboy - Indian 500 BC - 319 AD
Triarii - Carthaginian, Hannibal in Africa 202 BC
XLegione - Seleucid 166-125 BC

pw is klay for all
You've already beaten me once in this division, is this a rematch? I'm happy to do the best two out of three, but I suspect Pete would not approve. :-)

Harvey

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by phoyle3290 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:50 pm

Div D

phoyle3290 - Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD defeats uneducated - Jewish 64 BC-6 AD - 40-13

Thanks for the game!

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Re: Poll on army selection rules

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:56 pm

I actually like the idea of a slightly more restricted timeline - my matchup of Soissons vs Ptolemies, for example, was a bit bizarre.

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Re: Early Middle Ages: winners post your results here

Post by edb1815 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:04 pm

Division C

edb1815 (Arab NA) defeated Rob123 (Indian) 44-19

Thanks for the game!

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Re: Tournament diary and news . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:39 pm

cromlechi will be away until July 17th. he has let his current opponents know, but he cannot start any more matches before then.

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Re: Early Middle Ages: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by batesmotel » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:31 pm

Division C

Korasanian challenge posted for Doyley50's Vikings, password 'doyle50'.

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Re: Early Middle Ages: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by batesmotel » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:42 pm

Challenge posted for my Khorasanians versus KiFI's Franks, password 'kifi'.

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by SnuggleBunnies » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:26 pm

Division A

SnuggleBunnies (Kingdom of Soissons) defeats NikiforosFokas (Jewish Revolt) 44-15

GG

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Re: Early Middle Ages: winners post your results here

Post by harveylh » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:02 pm

Division A

harveylh - Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD (no allies) defeats NikiforosFokas - Arab Conquest 638-684 AD (no allies), 72-34.

Arab veteran spear easily broke the center of the Umayyad battle line, but fortunately, the Umayyad lancers won both flank battles.

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by harveylh » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:09 pm

Division A

harveylh - Arab City 300-633 AD defeats NikiforosFokas - Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD, 50-24.

Good tough game and closer than the score indicates.

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Breogan » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:58 pm

Division C

Breogan (Greeks) defeated cromlechi (Cartaghinian Hannibal in Africa) 61 - 37

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by phoyle3290 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:13 pm

Div D

phoyle3290 - (Carthaginian 216-203 BC) defeats uneducated - (Jewish 163-111) BC - 64-25

This battle was pretty tight until the end. His Zealots were eating away at my right flank, but I was able to get my cavalry around his right before he was able to pick my line apart. Thanks for the match!

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by SawyerK » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:08 am

Division D

SawyerK (Ptolemaic 55-30 BC) defeated Uneducated (Jewish 64 BC-6 AD) by 45 to 5.

The Jewish army mounted a spirited defense but the weight of the pikes and legionnaires was too much.

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Tresantes » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:41 am

Division D

Tresantes (Pyrrhic) defeats KiFi (Macedonian) 54-27

A very enjoyable battle, thanks KFi!

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Tresantes » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:44 am

Division D

Tresantes (Pyrrhic) defeats Bluefin (Syracusan) 57-32

My right wing collapsed, and it was looking grim (for me, not Bluefin). But somehow the Pyrrhics held on, and managed to turn the tables. Great fun battle, thanks Bluefin.

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