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[Stefano63]

Many, many thanks for your great job.

Ciao

XLegione/Stefano63

[DanZanzibar]

Thanks Pete from another new player to the league. I enjoyed it a lot and appreciate the work you put in. I know it’s not a little.

[Doyley50]

Many thanks for all the effort you put into the tournament to make it such a great success.

[stockwellpete]

Here is the schedule for Season 9. The basic league format will be exactly the same (e.g. 10 players per division, players choosing 4 armies etc), except for the Biblical section. We will be trialing pantherboy's suggestion of giving players a choice between 1200pt or 1600pt armies in the Early Middle Ages section with a view to rolling it out right across the FOG2DL in Season 10 . . .

Season 9 (starting October 1st 2020)

Classical Antiquity – all matches 1600pts

Late Antiquity – all matches 1600pts

Early Middle Ages – either 1200pts or 1600pts, default is 1200pts

Biblical – will be reorganised into divisions of 6 players, playing paired games, consisting of historical match-ups chosen by myself based on the Rise of Persia module, all matches 1200pts. No TT Mod armies will be used.

Themed Event – hoplite warfare, all matches 1600pts - this will possibly be the last themed event and it will be replaced as soon as High Middle Ages becomes available, hopefully in time for Season 10.


The provisional schedule for Season 10 (starting February 1st 2021) looks like this, provided the 1200/1600pt trial is successful in Season 9

Classical Antiquity – either 1200pts or 1600pts, default is 1600pts

Late Antiquity – historically themed with a restricted choice of armies, either 1200pts or 1600pts, default is 1600pts

Early Middle Ages - either 1200pts or 1600pts, default is 1200pts

Biblical – 6 players per division continues, either 1200pts or 1600pts, default is 1200pts

High Middle Ages - either 1200pts or 1600pts, default is 1200pts. This is provided we are able to open this section, otherwise the Themed Event will continue for one more season.

Please note, in addition, from Season 9 onwards players will not be able to choose any army or allies that they have used in a previous season and players will be discouraged from surrendering matches prematurely when the scores between the two players is less than 15%.

[Swuul]

Please note, in addition, from Season 9 onwards players will not be able to choose any army that they have used in a previous season and players will be discouraged from surrendering matches prematurely when the scores between the two players is less than 15%.

I like the idea! However, is there a "cool-down" or something, so that you can choose the same army for example after five or ten seasons (else, presuming there will be dozens of seasons still, eventually one will run out of armies from which to choose)?

Also, if an army was chosen in the past with an ally, can that combo be selected in reverse order? As an example, I have played Samnites with Etruscan allies, could I choose Etruscans with Samnite allies in the future?

[stockwellpete]

I like the idea! However, is there a "cool-down" or something, so that you can choose the same army for example after five or ten seasons (else, presuming there will be dozens of seasons still, eventually one will run out of armies from which to choose)?

Just the next season. I won't have time to check everyone's selections going further back than that.

Also, if an army was chosen in the past with an ally, can that combo be selected in reverse order? As an example, I have played Samnites with Etruscan allies, could I choose Etruscans with Samnite allies in the future?

Not the Samnites or the Etruscans as the main army or as the allies in the next season.

[kronenblatt]

I like the idea too.

Question though: How strict is the "army" definition? Truly army list or wider?

Let's say I had Roman 199-106 BC previous season, can I then have Roman 219-200 BC this season? Or does it make all Roman armies in that section/era unavailable to me?

[stockwellpete]

I like the idea too.

Question though: How strict is the "army" definition? Truly army list or wider?

Let's say I had Roman 199-106 BC previous season, can I then have Roman 219-200 BC this season? Or does it make all Roman armies in that section/era unavailable to me?

No, all Roman armies will be ineligible for you. You will be told in the instructions to choose an army from a different nation each season and I will give some examples too, because it can get confusing with some armies e.g. Arab early medieval or Viking/Viking Ireland. Before the season starts I will provide clarification.

[stockwellpete]

Here are the new Biblical Tables and charts designed by Anders (hidde) . . .

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[random27]

Thanks ,pete , i ve found in this league all what i love in sports
Count on me for next season

[Karvon]

If the default is 1600 but I've opted for 1200, does that mean I have to play 1600 if that's my opponent's preference?

[stockwellpete]

If the default is 1600 but I've opted for 1200, does that mean I have to play 1600 if that's my opponent's preference?

Yes.

[Cunningcairn]

Thanks Pete that sounds great. I will have to rethink my options for armies with the new point allocations. It's like a new game

[Badger73]

I like the idea too.

Question though: How strict is the "army" definition? Truly army list or wider?

Let's say I had Roman 199-106 BC previous season, can I then have Roman 219-200 BC this season? Or does it make all Roman armies in that section/era unavailable to me?

No, all Roman armies will be ineligible for you. You will be told in the instructions to choose an army from a different nation each season and I will give some examples too, because it can get confusing with some armies e.g. Arab early medieval or Viking/Viking Ireland. Before the season starts I will provide clarification.

Does this apply across Era's as well as within an Era? If I play as Germans for Classical Antiquity in October, am I ineligible to play Germans for Early Middle Ages in February?

[stockwellpete]

Does this apply across Era's as well as within an Era? If I play as Germans for Classical Antiquity in October, am I ineligible to play Germans for Early Middle Ages in February?

Just within the era to start with in Season 9 and we will see how it goes. I am not going to spend hours cross-referencing everyone's choices. The purpose of the rule change is to encourage players to choose different armies from season to season. As the restriction only applies to the next season then it can be implemented in its broadest sense within each section. There are going to be all sorts of queries that players can come up with if they want to be picky about the new rule, so I would just ask players to use their commonsense when making their choices. If you have picked, say, a Roman army with Jewish allies in Classical Antiquity in one season, then just avoid those two armies in Classical Antiquity the following season.

[GeneralKostas]

It will be an interesting Season. Bigger armies, more units, bigger map, more space for tactical movements, chaotic fights...

[edb1815]

All very interesting. I like the idea of historically themed match ups. At a minimum you could use the list generated by the game with date and geo restrictions turned on.

[Nosy_Rat]

Interesting, just a quick clarification - you mean armies we used in the Season 8 would be already unavailable for the next season, right?

[stockwellpete]

Interesting, just a quick clarification - you mean armies we used in the Season 8 would be already unavailable for the next season, right?

Not sure I understand the question. What does "already unavailable" mean? You just have to use a different army (and ally) from season to season.

[Nosy_Rat]

Interesting, just a quick clarification - you mean armies we used in the Season 8 would be already unavailable for the next season, right?

Not sure I understand the question. What does "already unavailable" mean? You just have to use a different army (and ally) from season to season.

I guess I worded it poorly, my question is whether "from Season 9 onwards" means that armies that we used in S8 would be unavailable for S9 or that the rule would start to be applied to armies that we pick for S9 going forwards (so basically no effect till S10)? Sorry, English eludes me today.