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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by cromlechi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:36 pm

Division C

cromlechi - Scots-Irish 50 BC - 476 AD defeats GDod - Galatian 280 BC-63 AD score = 50-24

Good game, thank you.

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:54 pm

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Re: Themed Event: winners post your results here . . .

Post by hidde » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:55 pm

25/6
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Re: Late Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:28 pm

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General Shapur has won Late Antiquity Division D!

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:31 pm

With 9 wins and a very impressive 35 points, General Shapur and his Kingdom of Soissons army has won Late Antiquity Division D. He looks a good bet for a prize voucher too as only 2 players in this section still have 100% records. Well played General Shapur! :D

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Re: Early Middle Ages: winners post your results here

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:34 pm

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Re: General Shapur has won Late Antiquity Division D!

Post by Geffalrus » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:44 pm

Congrats Shapur! Excellent work this season. KoS does seem to be quite the competitive list. :)

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Re: Early Middle Ages: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:45 pm

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Cunningcairn » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:46 pm

Div B

Cunningcairn - Indian 320-545 AD beat XLegione - Hunnic Sabir 463-558 AD by 58% to 26%

Huns were always up against it with a reduced width battle field. With one flank protected by the Hunnic Sea of Despair the Indians could not be outflanked and the Huns could do nothing to stop their advance. A valiant defense by XLegione who managed to escape with some of his army through gaps that eventually appeared in the Indian line.

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Re: Biblical: winners post your results here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:46 pm

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Re: Biblical: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:09 pm

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Re: General Shapur has won Late Antiquity Division D!

Post by MikeMarchant » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:32 pm

Well done, General Shapur!

It was a pleasure to play you.


Best Wishes

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by devoncop » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:40 pm

Division B

devoncop (Jewish revolt) beat Triarii (Kingdom of Soissons) 45% to 20%

A beast of a map for the Roman army with hills woods and rough terrain saw them frantically trying to hold an elevated hill in the NW corner....Unexpected resilience from the Jewish irregular foot combined with the usual impact success from the zealots managed to get the Jewish side home before the Irregulars collapsed....Thanks to my opponent for a brutal contest !

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Najanaja » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:52 pm

Division C

Najanaja (Romans) defeated Dzon Vejn (Indians) 61-55

Romans started well with a flank attack that routed several elephants. Then the overlap started to tell and many of elephants rallied.
Very close game.

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Re: General Shapur has won Late Antiquity Division D!

Post by SawyerK » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:33 pm

Congratulations, Shapur!

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Re: Poll on new "Allies" feature

Post by Cunningcairn » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:08 am

ianiow wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:46 am
stockwellpete wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 am
ianiow wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:26 am
At the moment you only allow one army per nation to go into each league. With national army composition drastically changing due to allies, maybe it is time to rethink this rule?
Do you think we should increase it to two armies per nation?
I would vote for just not identical. But I could live with your suggestion. :)
I really like ianiow's suggestion of just not identical. A lot of the ally options are not that great so I doubt there will be too many choices of the same main nation with different allies.

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Re: Poll on new "Allies" feature

Post by stockwellpete » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:22 am

Cunningcairn wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:08 am
I really like ianiow's suggestion of just not identical. A lot of the ally options are not that great so I doubt there will be too many choices of the same main nation with different allies.
I have been giving this issue some thought in recent days. With just a couple of hours left in the poll, the result looks decisively in favour of rolling out the new allies feature right across the tournament in Season 6. I am now quite strongly in favour of keeping things the way they are with regards to allies, with some clarifications. If we do what Ian and Martin are proposing then I think it would, on occasions, increase the likelihood of getting very similar armies in the same division. If you look at the Viking 790-899 list, they can have Breton, British, Frankish or French allies (4), while the Roman 379-424 list can have Alan, Arab, Armenian, Frankish, Germanic Foot Tribes, Germanic Horse Tribes and Hunnic (Western) (7). So it would then be possible to have 7 Roman armies with a different army in the same division. I am not saying this is very likely, but every now and then you might get a division where 3 players have the same core army and just have different allies. I don't really want that to happen.

So I am advocating we retain the rule of one core army per nation and that there is no restriction on the allies that may be chosen. So two completely different core armies would be allowed to choose the same ally. I do not think that two players in the same division having, say, Viking allies for their Irish and French core armies, even if someone else had chosen a Viking core army, would make it too samey, which seems to be the concern of some players. Because, in addition, I propose to designate the following groups of armies (where the nationality is more nuanced) as coming from one nation so that only one can be used in each division . . .

Anglo-Saxon and Continental Saxon
Arab (all of them - City, Bedouin, Conquest, Abbasid, Umayyad etc)
Dacian and Carpi
Greek, Western and Mercenary
Hunnic, Hepthalite and Sabir
Indian (all of them - Mountain, Rajput etc)
Jewish and Jewish Revolt
Thracian (all of them - Hellenistic, Gallic, Getae etc)
Viking and Viking (Ireland)

So, for example, in future there will only be one core Arab army in a division. You could not have Arab City and Umayyad in the same division, nor could you have Hepthalite and Hunnic Sabir.

I know that not all players will get their heads round these ideas, not least because a lot of players do not read the forum thoroughly (only around half of the 60 entering this season have voted in this poll), but that doesn't really matter as it will be me who will be implementing the army selection procedure at the start of the season. I will obviously make things as clear as I can in the recruitment threads and gradually over the next couple of seasons players will get to understand the slightly modified system.

I would like to hear comments on these ideas. i am not sure yet whether we need to do another poll. Let's just see how the discussion develops.

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Re: Just 1 day left to vote in the poll on the new "Allies" feature

Post by Karvon » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:36 am

My only slight reservation would be about be about lumping all the Arabs and Indians together. To me that's like saying all the Macedonian successors are one group, and only one could be chosen. I could see lumping Arab city, Bedouin and conquest lists as one set as they are all centered on Arabia. Probably some of the Indian lists could likewise be lumped together. but in each region, some of these lists were contemporaries and enemies/allies.

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Re: Just 1 day left to vote in the poll on the new "Allies" feature

Post by stockwellpete » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:46 am

Karvon wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:36 am
My only slight reservation would be about be about lumping all the Arabs and Indians together. To me that's like saying all the Macedonian successors are one group, and only one could be chosen. I could see lumping Arab city, Bedouin and conquest lists as one set as they are all centered on Arabia. Probably some of the Indian lists could likewise be lumped together. but in each region, some of these lists were contemporaries and enemies/allies.

Karvon
True, but given that most of the match-ups in the FOG2DL are ahistorical anyway, I don't think that this presents a major problem. Only the Themed Event aspires to be historically accurate. The main point is to get a good variety of armies in each division so there are plenty of interesting match-ups. I think what I am suggesting will do that pretty much.

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Re: Just 1 day left to vote in the poll on the new "Allies" feature

Post by devoncop » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:32 am

stockwellpete wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:46 am
Karvon wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:36 am
My only slight reservation would be about be about lumping all the Arabs and Indians together. To me that's like saying all the Macedonian successors are one group, and only one could be chosen. I could see lumping Arab city, Bedouin and conquest lists as one set as they are all centered on Arabia. Probably some of the Indian lists could likewise be lumped together. but in each region, some of these lists were contemporaries and enemies/allies.

Karvon
True, but given that most of the match-ups in the FOG2DL are ahistorical anyway, I don't think that this presents a major problem. Only the Themed Event aspires to be historically accurate. The main point is to get a good variety of armies in each division so there are plenty of interesting match-ups. I think what I am suggesting will do that pretty much.
I have no problem with the proposals as such. Your main point about your objective being "to get a good variety of armies in each Division so there are interesting match up's" is an interesting one.

Whilst this is indeed interesting it can on occasion lead to some completely asynchronous match ups where one side given the random terrain may as well pack up and go home from the off.

Has their every been any interest in having a level playing field category....maybe in the Themed event ?......ie to match identical army lists in a series of Civil War engagements.....The best Generals rather than the luckiest ones (on occasion) could then be said to have the best chance........It would be a bit like Formula 1 with the drivers having to drive equally capable cars......

Just a thought.

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