Cunningcairn wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:08 am
I really like ianiow's suggestion of just not identical. A lot of the ally options are not that great so I doubt there will be too many choices of the same main nation with different allies.
I have been giving this issue some thought in recent days. With just a couple of hours left in the poll, the result looks decisively in favour of rolling out the new allies feature right across the tournament in Season 6. I am now quite strongly in favour of keeping things the way they are with regards to allies, with some clarifications. If we do what Ian and Martin are proposing then I think it would, on occasions, increase the likelihood of getting very similar armies in the same division. If you look at the Viking 790-899 list, they can have Breton, British, Frankish or French allies (4), while the Roman 379-424 list can have Alan, Arab, Armenian, Frankish, Germanic Foot Tribes, Germanic Horse Tribes and Hunnic (Western) (7). So it would then be possible to have 7 Roman armies with a different army in the same division. I am not saying this is very likely, but every now and then you might get a division where 3 players have the same core army and just have different allies. I don't really want that to happen.
So I am advocating we retain the rule of one core army per nation and that there is no restriction on the allies that may be chosen. So two completely different core armies would be allowed to choose the same ally. I do not think that two players in the same division having, say, Viking allies for their Irish and French core armies, even if someone else had chosen a Viking core army, would make it too samey, which seems to be the concern of some players. Because, in addition, I propose to designate the following groups of armies (where the nationality is more nuanced) as coming from one nation so that only one can be used in each division . . .
Anglo-Saxon and Continental Saxon
Arab (all of them - City, Bedouin, Conquest, Abbasid, Umayyad etc)
Dacian and Carpi
Greek, Western and Mercenary
Hunnic, Hepthalite and Sabir
Indian (all of them - Mountain, Rajput etc)
Jewish and Jewish Revolt
Thracian (all of them - Hellenistic, Gallic, Getae etc)
Viking and Viking (Ireland)
So, for example, in future there will only be one core Arab army in a division. You could not have Arab City and Umayyad in the same division, nor could you have Hepthalite and Hunnic Sabir.
I know that not all players will get their heads round these ideas, not least because a lot of players do not read the forum thoroughly (only around half of the 60 entering this season have voted in this poll), but that doesn't really matter as it will be me who will be implementing the army selection procedure at the start of the season. I will obviously make things as clear as I can in the recruitment threads and gradually over the next couple of seasons players will get to understand the slightly modified system.
I would like to hear comments on these ideas. i am not sure yet whether we need to do another poll. Let's just see how the discussion develops.