Slitherine

devoncop wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:06 pm So presumably if Geffalrus decides not to enter CA the season after he has used his beloved Antigonids (or similar) or I was unable to choose my zealots in LA we would then be allowed to enter the following season and use them then ?

I am not saying that would happen I am speaking metaphorically by the way.

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:45 pm At the moment a player can select Antigonids, Lysimachids, Macedonians and Ptolemaics as his four choices knowing full well that he will be allocated one of the pike armies. I would like that to stop really. And if there are four players in a division doing something similar then that division is going to end up with 4 pike armies in it and I think that is probably two too many.

uneducated wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:52 pm Between them and eternity lay only a river.

Geffalrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:17 pm

uneducated wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:52 pm Between them and eternity lay only a river.

Just an FYI as this was something I didn't fully understand until fairly recently...........all streams in the game counter Macedonian pikes and lancers to some extent. Your basic stream does not count as "open ground" which is required for the Deep Pike POA and the Lancer POA to activate. Without open ground, both those units lose 100 POA on impact. The pikes will continue to lose that 100 POA in melee as well. In essence, the 72 point pike fights about as well as a 42 point hoplite. And that's just the little stream. Large Streams will disrupt most mounted and heavy infantry units, making them easy prey for medium foot. And finally, Deep Streams disrupt every unit except foot skirmishers, I believe.

The only hope a Macedonian army really has at that point is luring you across the river, or hard marching to cross somewhere else to face you on open ground. The second option is my preferred strategy. However, that is extremely hard to do against the Jewish army because of all the cheap medium foot they can bring. If you line the banks of the stream with Irregular Foot and some Zealots, there will be no open spot for an easy crossing. They'll need to try and force their way across, and that means relying on small numbers of Offensive Spears. That's a contest you want, as medium foot and offensive spears are not the strongest parts of the Hellenistic roster.

Luring you across usually involves having a ranged unit advantage. However, that's almost impossible for the Macedonians to achieve because the Jewish list ALSO has about a billion archers. Park your archers in the stream and shoot anyone who comes near. Put a line of your cheap mediums behind them, and you'll have a very strong position. Nothing is an automatic win, but you'll force the Macedonian player to work A LOT harder to beat you.

SnuggleBunnies wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:23 pm I personally like any change that means more variety, and more players being exposed to different playstyles.