Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

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Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Bombax » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:29 pm

Hi folks,
Overall is the Black Market structure a 'good thing' or a 'bad thing', or is that down to chance?
Up till last week I thought it was mainly positive, but in a game last week the Black Markets I'd built in a few cities lost me a fair bit of money!
Any feedback would be very welcome.
Thanks,
Jay.

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Will_L » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:57 pm

Both good and bad, depends on luck.
I love 'em. 8)

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Pocus » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:27 am

I would say that on the long term, they are positive. You can get things from them that you can't get otherwise, or with difficulty, like a special unit upgrade. Now, you are never protected from a series of bad luck rolls ... Don't use them if your empire is brittle and can't cope with bad events.
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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Bombax » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Thanks Will & Pocus, your comments tie in with what I've been seeing. When things go wrong on the black market the results can be a bit brutal!!! :shock:

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Will_L » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:20 pm

Yeah, last night one of mine cost me 378... told me it was Archimedes "Death Ray" but it turned out to be a bunch of bricks in a crate. :wink:

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Bombax » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:39 pm

Will_L wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:20 pm
Yeah, last night one of mine cost me 378... told me it was Archimedes "Death Ray" but it turned out to be a bunch of bricks in a crate. :wink:
Excellent! :lol:

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by w_michael » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:12 am

I love them, but you have to have a big cash treasury just in case they all consume money. Otherwise, roll the dice and take your chances.
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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Bombax » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:50 am

w_michael wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:12 am
I love them, but you have to have a big cash treasury just in case they all consume money. Otherwise, roll the dice and take your chances.
From what I've seen, I think that the amount lost depends on how rich you are to start with - i.e. it works on a percentage basis rather than an absolute figure. So even if you have massive amounts in your treasury, you can still lose a substantial amount of that cash reserve if several black markets deliver dodgy deals on the same turn. I'm not 100% certain of this, but it would explain some fairly spectacular losses that I've suffered in recent games!

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by w_michael » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:49 pm

I think that you are right. In my game they can now take out 4,000 gold a pop and I have half a dozen of them.
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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by Bombax » Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:45 pm

w_michael wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:49 pm
I think that you are right. In my game they can now take out 4,000 gold a pop and I have half a dozen of them.
Time to send in the guards and round up those black market operators for a little 're-education', perhaps? 8)

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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by w_michael » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:16 am

Many of the outcomes are good, and I have a huge treasury to withstand a "little" overhead.
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Re: Black Market - good thing or bad thing?

Post by AshtonMacfarlan » Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:27 pm

I am against it, so I think it's bad

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