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Why did the Greek-style mercenary infantry export in Fog2 as thureophoroi?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:35 pm
by Dux Limitis
Is there something wrong?they should be the mercenary hoplites when export in the fog2 I think,and in some fog2's army lists they do have around 310bc and post times.

Re: Why did the Greek-style mercenary infantry export in Fog2 as thureophoroi?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:39 pm
by IainMcNeil
You probably need to post this in the Fog II forum as the developer there will need to answer as he decides how this works.

Re: Why did the Greek-style mercenary infantry export in Fog2 as thureophoroi?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:46 pm
by devoncop
Dux Limitis wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:35 pm
Is there something wrong?they should be the mercenary hoplites when export in the fog2 I think,and in some fog2's army lists they do have around 310bc and post times.

Are they not described in Empires as Medium infantry in the unit description ?

If so then Theueophoroi would be accurate.

Re: Why did the Greek-style mercenary infantry export in Fog2 as thureophoroi?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:08 pm
by rbodleyscott
Dux Limitis wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:35 pm
Is there something wrong?they should be the mercenary hoplites when export in the fog2 I think,and in some fog2's army lists they do have around 310bc and post times.
See

http://lukeuedasarson.com/Iphikrates1.html

http://lukeuedasarson.com/Iphikrates2.html

Ueda-Sarson's interpretation, which we believe is correct, is that most of the mercenaries in Alexander's army were lightly-equipped Iphicratean-style hoplites, rather than traditional hoplites or peltasts. These Iphicratean-style hoplites then evolved into thureophoroi in the armies of the Diadochi. So whether they are Iphicratean-style hoplites or thureophoroi in 310 BC, they are better represented as thureophoroi than as mercenary heavy infantry hoplites.

Re: Why did the Greek-style mercenary infantry export in Fog2 as thureophoroi?

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:27 am
by Dux Limitis
rbodleyscott wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:08 pm
Dux Limitis wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:35 pm
Is there something wrong?they should be the mercenary hoplites when export in the fog2 I think,and in some fog2's army lists they do have around 310bc and post times.
See

http://lukeuedasarson.com/Iphikrates1.html

http://lukeuedasarson.com/Iphikrates2.html

Ueda-Sarson's interpretation, which we believe is correct, is that most of the mercenaries in Alexander's army were lightly-equipped Iphicratean-style hoplites, rather than traditional hoplites or peltasts. These Iphicratean-style hoplites then evolved into thureophoroi in the armies of the Diadochi. So whether they are Iphicratean-style hoplites or thureophoroi in 310 BC, they are better represented as thureophoroi than as mercenary heavy infantry hoplites.
Thanks for the answer,now I think maybe the empire should unified the correct unit models as fog2 in game.