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CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:32 am

All themes are 800 points. 6x4 tables

Palmyrene Empire

The following armies from 258 - 273AD

Palmyran
Principate Roman – Eastern Only
Early Sassanid Persian
Later Pre-Islamic Bedouin
Armenian - Use Early Armenian list with the below amendments
Delete Cataphracts line
Insert
Noble Cataphracts - Cataphracts; Heavily Armoured; Superior; Undrilled; -; Lancer, Swordsmen; 19; 4-6; 0-8
Upgrade Noble Cataphracts to Royal Bodyguard - Cataphracts; Heavily Armoured; Elite; Undrilled; -; Lancer, Swordsmen; 22; 2-4; 1 BG
Cavalry - Cavalry; Armoured; Average; Undrilled; -; Lancer, Swordsmen; 12; 4-6; 12-24
Upgrade Cavalry to Nobles - Cavalry; Armoured; Superior; Undrilled; -; Lancer, Swordsmen; 17; 4-6;up to 2/3


The Mongol Conquest of China

The following armies, 1205-1279AD

Mongol Conquest - Mongol Only
Yuan Mongol
Xi Xia* - Old book, at least one third of the troops named 'Cavalry' (not Nomad Auxiliaries) must be fielded as Average. A maximum of half of the troops named 'Cavalry' may dismount. Their quality remains the same as when mounted. No more than 2 poor BG may be fielded
Central Asian City States* - Old book, at least one third of Noble Cavalry must be fielded as Average
Liao
Jurchen Jin
Koryo Korean
Late Heian to Muromachi Japanese
Song Chinese
Later Steppe Nomad
Dali Kingdom* - Use Southern Song List however Northern Song Cavalry Maxima and minima are to be used
Dai Viet - use Champa, the maximum number of 'Elephants' (this does not include artillery or generals) that may be fielded by the army is reduced to 8. Maximum Spearmen, light Spear swordsmen, bases is increased to 36. Spearmen armed with light Spear only are replaced with:- MF, protected, average drilled, crossbow.
Seljuk Turk, Khwarizmian only


The Successors
Any Book 1 army from 323BC to 223BC excluding!

Early Eastern Steppe Horse Culture
Gallic
Warring States to Western Han Chinese
Ancient Spanish
Numidian or Moorish

Allies
For all themes any allies allowed at that time period in that theatre are allowed. Armies from old list books must use allies from the new books if they exist

Lists from old books must use V3 point costs. Any old list troops whose quality is changed due to the above are costed as their imposed quality
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020

Post by petedalby » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:02 pm

Do you know the dates Phil?
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020

Post by dave_r » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:20 pm

petedalby wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:02 pm
Do you know the dates Phil?
Yeah:

Period 1: 258 - 273AD
Period 2: 1205-1279AD
Period 3: 323BC to 223BC

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020

Post by philqw78 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:07 pm

What Dave said. Darrel will let me know as soon as he does
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020

Post by notrum » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:03 pm

The MKWS site updated on 22nd Oct, the dates for 2020 have been confirmed for 2nd and 3rd May.

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by petedalby » Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:24 pm

Thanks Steve
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:01 am

Added Armenians to the Palmyrene Empire theme. See above
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by grahambriggs » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:34 pm

If I take Dai Viet with 8 elephants, can I take an ally with more elephants?

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:39 am

You can take a Khmer (tho actually Champa) Ally to increase the number
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by grahambriggs » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:02 pm

philqw78 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:39 am
You can take a Khmer (tho actually Champa) Ally to increase the number
Hurrah!

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:17 pm

The Champa allied Dai Viet in The invasion
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by terrys » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:17 pm

Can I use the Kwarizmians listed under the Seljuk Turk list in the new book.

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:39 pm

terrys wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:17 pm
Can I use the Kwarizmians listed under the Seljuk Turk list in the new book.
You can use the armies listed in the op, which include them, and stop being so smart
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by ChrisTofalos » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:16 pm

I know this is a team competition but can individuals enter (in ad hoc teams)?

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:24 pm

Yes, Brian Espie was entering. If you could get Paul Longmore you'd have a MAWS team
Be warned tho, its army v navy weekend
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by ChrisTofalos » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 am

With six teams and five games I believe everybody's going to play everybody else once. If it's of any help to the organisers have a look at:

https://www.fixturelist.com/

You just input the names, press a button and you get a random round by round draw - and it's free.

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by ChrisTofalos » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:10 pm

Who do we send the lists to and what's the deadline?

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:41 pm

Lists to
fogamlists@bhgs.org.uk
By 18 Apr
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May - Palmyrene Empire...

Post by ChrisTofalos » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:30 pm

This empire didn't extend all the way to Italy, so we appear to have something of a problem. For a theme clearly set around Palmyra, if you win the initiative against Romans you only get choose Italian terrain. Furthermore, it's highly unlikely that you'll fight in steppes if facing a Roman opponent who wins initiative.

Shouldn't the only terrain choices available be limited to what the Palmyrans have?

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2020 2-3 May

Post by philqw78 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:02 pm

No. It is set around the Palmyran Empire. They were defeated by Rome, but what if they weren't. They'd have carried on round the Med. And Roman terrain isn't just Italy it's Roman, which was quite large at the time
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