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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Tue May 30, 2017 8:43 am

Capote wrote:
Shards wrote:I don't suppose either of you took a screenshot of the last turn?
No, sorry Shards. HJB lost this game because Vp was -18 in this 21st day.
Ahh! Took a few too many losses then!

Yeah, as the Axis, you can't go giving away your high strength tank units in the early game

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Capote » Tue May 30, 2017 2:48 pm

Shards wrote:
Capote wrote:
Shards wrote:I don't suppose either of you took a screenshot of the last turn?
No, sorry Shards. HJB lost this game because Vp was -18 in this 21st day.
Ahh! Took a few too many losses then!

Yeah, as the Axis, you can't go giving away your high strength tank units in the early game
I'm sorry, Axis Vp was less of 18, not -18 :)
Edit: My score is bad calculated in the overall score table. Now is 45 when it should be 58 (34 + 24).

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Tue May 30, 2017 3:15 pm

ahh, I understand on the score now, didn't realise you were quite so far into the game!

Day by Day Victory thresholds:
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I'll investigate what's happening with your scores Capote

Thanks

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Gerifonte » Tue May 30, 2017 4:24 pm

Apparently all are wrong i think . For example :

COLHoneyBadger 32* 39 59*


Should not be 71 instead of 59 ?

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Tue May 30, 2017 4:25 pm

Gerifonte wrote:Apparently all are wrong i think . For example :

COLHoneyBadger 32* 39 59*


Should not be 71 instead of 59 ?
Indeed! Some system is failing it's Mathematics degree... we'll get it fixed :)

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Wed May 31, 2017 9:29 am

Looks like this is fixed now!

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Gerifonte » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:29 am

shards, Could you review my game with (Allied) vs KenRichards (German).
This game has disappeared from my list of games. I think it probably was because KenRichards he has not sent his turn in more than a day and the game is over in time. But I have not received end-of-game warning mail.This clearly hurt me as I was going to get more points in my favor in the next turns.
Is not it supposed that if a player loses his time he compensates his opponent?

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:29 am

Gerifonte wrote:shards, Could you review my game with (Allied) vs KenRichards (German).
This game has disappeared from my list of games. I think it probably was because KenRichards he has not sent his turn in more than a day and the game is over. But I have not received end-of-game warning mail.This clearly hurt me as I was going to get more points in my favor in the next turns.
Is not it supposed that if a player loses his time he compensates his opponent?
187 turns?? Wow!

The 9-11 score on the scoreboard implies to me that you got to the last day (the 28th?). It looks like Ken got a last-day points victory (there's no draws in Bulge, see the graph above), but it may also have timed out, I'll check.

Either way, for games where both players have put in such a monumental effort (srsly, 187 turns!), then we don't do any points penalising as it's obvious that the game was being playing in a good spirit. This is the same for scott1957 and Rodrc2016 where their game 1 ended in a time out but after 151 turns!

Contrast to Duncanrice and PanzerPat's 2nd game where some points have been moved as it timed out on turn 59 (the current cap is at 100 turns, but I'm reviewing that constantly based on evidence from the games you guys are playing).

Thanks,

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Gerifonte » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:38 am

Shards wrote:
Gerifonte wrote:shards, Could you review my game with (Allied) vs KenRichards (German).
This game has disappeared from my list of games. I think it probably was because KenRichards he has not sent his turn in more than a day and the game is over. But I have not received end-of-game warning mail.This clearly hurt me as I was going to get more points in my favor in the next turns.
Is not it supposed that if a player loses his time he compensates his opponent?
187 turns?? Wow!

The 9-11 score on the scoreboard implies to me that you got to the last day (the 28th?). It looks like Ken got a last-day points victory (there's no draws in Bulge, see the graph above), but it may also have timed out, I'll check.

Either way, for games where both players have put in such a monumental effort (srsly, 187 turns!), then we don't do any points penalising as it's obvious that the game was being playing in a good spirit. This is the same for scott1957 and Rodrc2016 where their game 1 ended in a time out but after 151 turns!

Contrast to Duncanrice and PanzerPat's 2nd game where some points have been moved as it timed out on turn 59 (the current cap is at 100 turns, but I'm reviewing that constantly based on evidence from the games you guys are playing).

Thanks,

No, we were on turn 25 and in play.
And on this turn two units of German cars disappeared with the consequent points for me.
I do not think it would be over for points. Although I can not assure you by not remembering how the punctuation was going.

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:55 am

Gerifonte wrote:
Shards wrote:
Gerifonte wrote:shards, Could you review my game with (Allied) vs KenRichards (German).
This game has disappeared from my list of games. I think it probably was because KenRichards he has not sent his turn in more than a day and the game is over. But I have not received end-of-game warning mail.This clearly hurt me as I was going to get more points in my favor in the next turns.
Is not it supposed that if a player loses his time he compensates his opponent?
187 turns?? Wow!

The 9-11 score on the scoreboard implies to me that you got to the last day (the 28th?). It looks like Ken got a last-day points victory (there's no draws in Bulge, see the graph above), but it may also have timed out, I'll check.

Either way, for games where both players have put in such a monumental effort (srsly, 187 turns!), then we don't do any points penalising as it's obvious that the game was being playing in a good spirit. This is the same for scott1957 and Rodrc2016 where their game 1 ended in a time out but after 151 turns!

Contrast to Duncanrice and PanzerPat's 2nd game where some points have been moved as it timed out on turn 59 (the current cap is at 100 turns, but I'm reviewing that constantly based on evidence from the games you guys are playing).

Thanks,

No, we were on turn 25 and in play.
And on this turn two units of German cars disappeared with the consequent points for me.
I do not think it would be over for points. Although I can not assure you by not remembering how the punctuation was going.
Hmm, without having the developer to hand to tell me exactly the algorithm for how in-play points are calculated (he's not available until next week). Then I can't really give you any satisfaction I'm afraid! Were you the Axis in this game? Did you win the other game as the Allies?
Thanks

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Post by Gerifonte » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:06 am

187 turns?? Wow!

The 9-11 score on the scoreboard implies to me that you got to the last day (the 28th?). It looks like Ken got a last-day points victory (there's no draws in Bulge, see the graph above), but it may also have timed out, I'll check.

Either way, for games where both players have put in such a monumental effort (srsly, 187 turns!), then we don't do any points penalising as it's obvious that the game was being playing in a good spirit. This is the same for scott1957 and Rodrc2016 where their game 1 ended in a time out but after 151 turns!

Contrast to Duncanrice and PanzerPat's 2nd game where some points have been moved as it timed out on turn 59 (the current cap is at 100 turns, but I'm reviewing that constantly based on evidence from the games you guys are playing).

Thanks,


No, we were on turn 25 and in play.
And on this turn two units of German cars disappeared with the consequent points for me.
I do not think it would be over for points. Although I can not assure you by not remembering how the punctuation was going.
Hmm, without having the developer to hand to tell me exactly the algorithm for how in-play points are calculated (he's not available until next week). Then I can't really give you any satisfaction I'm afraid! Were you the Axis in this game? Did you win the other game as the Allies?
Thanks
No I was the ally and KenRichards German.
Had wrapped 3 German panzer units and this turn only two of them were left with a point of force and were going to disappear for lack of supplies.
But at the end of the shift ...

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by scott1957 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:13 pm

Shards, no big deal but the last tournament game that timed out is still shown in my current games.
Thx, Scott

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:56 am

scott1957 wrote:Shards, no big deal but the last tournament game that timed out is still shown in my current games.
Thx, Scott
Hi!

Thanks for letting me know. There's a bug in the game client right now where it's not always ditching games that time out. Hopefully it'll go if/when your opponent opens the game next.

If there's still games in people's lists at the end of the tournament, we'll go through and make sure they're deactivated

Ta!

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Post by Gerifonte » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:19 am

What about mine? Do you know anything?

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:38 am

Hi!

My feeling right now is that the game will stand as it is.

I'll ask the developer when he's back in next week about how exactly points are calculated when a game ends mid-turn like that and I'm also going to see whether it's worth extending the play clocks slightly. But at 187 turns, you've obviously both put a lot into the game. And whilst it's obviously frustrating for you to be so near to getting a chunk more VP's and maybe 2 or 3 more tournament points, I don't think it would be truly fair for us to be changing the result of the match.

Thanks,

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Gerifonte » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:24 pm

Shards wrote:Hi!

My feeling right now is that the game will stand as it is.

I'll ask the developer when he's back in next week about how exactly points are calculated when a game ends mid-turn like that and I'm also going to see whether it's worth extending the play clocks slightly. But at 187 turns, you've obviously both put a lot into the game. And whilst it's obviously frustrating for you to be so near to getting a chunk more VP's and maybe 2 or 3 more tournament points, I don't think it would be truly fair for us to be changing the result of the match.

Thanks,
What is clear is that right for me is not ..
Please work so that in future tournaments fix this type of problems.
Many times the championships are decided by little points of difference and lose points due to these issues is not funny ...

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by AlbertoC » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:32 pm

Just a heads up guys :)

We 'll be starting a new tournament immediately after the current one ends.

http://slitherine.com/tournaments/tournaments.asp

Subscriptions are already open so feel free to join! It will start next Friday on June 16th.

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Re: The Spring Clash Tournament is over - it's time for PAYB

Post by Shards » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:16 am

And the last game has finished!

http://www.slitherine.com/tournaments/s ... =3&aPage=1

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Congrats to Commander Gutalin!!

And huge thanks to everyone for taking part!

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