AO beg steal and steal again
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- Sergeant - 7.5 cm FK 16 nA
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
On to malaga and start planning to get awards/exp etc shared out, collector is a bit of an annoyance here as you cant have more than one unit in entire roster so a t26 in your reserve stops you having one deployed. previous issue with no 2cm flak was down to retrograde as i have it this turn as new gear along with recon car, 3.7 cm aa and 37mm pak.
prototype this round is italian tanke which can wait for ebro and hero was envelopment which ill stick on t26 and fingers crossed for overwhelming force before ebro. I emeber this map being easy enough so no auxillaries, i have been calling them them reserves up until now , and i can take it slowly to preserve prestige.
th enew recon car i got last time got 856pretige in a single map with no heroes, was stuck below the big nationalist troop area so must have been getting it through support on their attack may try similar tactic this map.
new units
sold t26 so then upgraded sdkfz 221 to t26to get some expon tank
bought fresh sdkfz 221
upgraded unl 35 to ba6 then stuck it in reserve
bought fresh unl35
bought fresh 2cm and 3.7mm flak guns
line up
Starting Prestige
Units
T26* (envelopment)
BT5*
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja
Sdkfz 221* *(Fearsome rep)
unl 37 **(Fearsome rep)
aac 1937
203mm M1931 (zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 (camouflage)
75mm vickers
20 mm m1931
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
He 51
He 51
He 51
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
Ju 52
Ju 52
prototype this round is italian tanke which can wait for ebro and hero was envelopment which ill stick on t26 and fingers crossed for overwhelming force before ebro. I emeber this map being easy enough so no auxillaries, i have been calling them them reserves up until now , and i can take it slowly to preserve prestige.
th enew recon car i got last time got 856pretige in a single map with no heroes, was stuck below the big nationalist troop area so must have been getting it through support on their attack may try similar tactic this map.
new units
sold t26 so then upgraded sdkfz 221 to t26to get some expon tank
bought fresh sdkfz 221
upgraded unl 35 to ba6 then stuck it in reserve
bought fresh unl35
bought fresh 2cm and 3.7mm flak guns
line up
Starting Prestige
Units
T26* (envelopment)
BT5*
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja
Sdkfz 221* *(Fearsome rep)
unl 37 **(Fearsome rep)
aac 1937
203mm M1931 (zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 (camouflage)
75mm vickers
20 mm m1931
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
He 51
He 51
He 51
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
Ju 52
Ju 52
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
Malaga went well, fighters starting look obsolete, recon getting crazy exp aac sitting on 1300 exp after 2 missions. Got slowed down a bit due to extra support needed by spanish due to trench slog. Got 1st steamroller but maybe cross this over onto a recon, aim this early is to get more steamrollers so its wont be used that much.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
onto brunete where main aim is to capture vega and those flame tanks.
took exchange to get the fighters and didn't hide any prestige.
hero is aggressive counter attack which can go on the new fighter maybe leave it on its own with camouflaged 88mm.
prototype is sdkfz 231 which is similar to acc1937 but has rapid fire so will upgrade steamroller tank to it.
new units
upgraded pz1b to sdkfz 231
upgraded he 51 to I-16
upgraded ba6 to pz1b
line up
T26* (envelopment)
BT5*
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b
verdja
Sdkfz 221 (Fearsome rep)
unl 37 (Fearsome rep)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15)
203mm M1931 (zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 (camouflage)
75mm vickers
20 mm m1931
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
He 51
He 51
I-16 *(aggressive counter attack)
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
Ju 52
Ju 52
auxillary
IT cavalry
ctv infantry
L3/33
L3/35
m11/39
took exchange to get the fighters and didn't hide any prestige.
hero is aggressive counter attack which can go on the new fighter maybe leave it on its own with camouflaged 88mm.
prototype is sdkfz 231 which is similar to acc1937 but has rapid fire so will upgrade steamroller tank to it.
new units
upgraded pz1b to sdkfz 231
upgraded he 51 to I-16
upgraded ba6 to pz1b
line up
T26* (envelopment)
BT5*
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b
verdja
Sdkfz 221 (Fearsome rep)
unl 37 (Fearsome rep)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15)
203mm M1931 (zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 (camouflage)
75mm vickers
20 mm m1931
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
He 51
He 51
I-16 *(aggressive counter attack)
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
Ju 52
Ju 52
auxillary
IT cavalry
ctv infantry
L3/33
L3/35
m11/39
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
Brunette was fairly straight forward didn't complete bonus objectives but got the flame tank and the 15 cm supplies no ral impact from game set up apart from denied aircraft, and even then i wasn't under that much pressure.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
Brunette was fairly straight forward didn't complete bonus objectives but got the flame tank and the 15 cm supplies no ral impact from game set up apart from denied aircraft, and even then i wasn't under that much pressure.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
on to zaragoza with prestige sink kicking in need to really stock up with ebro coming.
hero is resilient so just sold it, prototype Sdkfz 231 , ran out of these last map so quite handy
quite few units now approaching 2nd star cant see any arty or aa getting there any time soon though
new units
75mm vickers to 76mm (ran out of 75mm)
set up
T26* (envelopment)
BT5*
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b
verdja*
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
20 mm m1931
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
He 51 *
He 51
I-16 *(aggressive counter attack)
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
auxillary
IT cavalry
ctv infantry
L3/33
L3/35
m11/39
hero is resilient so just sold it, prototype Sdkfz 231 , ran out of these last map so quite handy
quite few units now approaching 2nd star cant see any arty or aa getting there any time soon though
new units
75mm vickers to 76mm (ran out of 75mm)
set up
T26* (envelopment)
BT5*
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b
verdja*
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
20 mm m1931
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
He 51 *
He 51
I-16 *(aggressive counter attack)
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
auxillary
IT cavalry
ctv infantry
L3/33
L3/35
m11/39
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
well zaragoza was bit of a disaster, just glad to get out without losing core units. was like attila and his hordes at times ,never seen this map play out like this, turn 3 the spanish commander was wiped out. lost alot of i6swhichfells like i have lost a unit.
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- Sergeant - 7.5 cm FK 16 nA
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
well zaragoza was bit of a disaster, just glad to get out without losing core units. was like attila and his hordes at times ,never seen this map play out like this, turn 3 the spanish commander was wiped out. lost alot of i6swhichfells like i have lost a unit.
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- Sergeant - 7.5 cm FK 16 nA
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
well zaragoza was bit of a disaster, just glad to get out without losing core units. was like attila and his hordes at times ,never seen this map play out like this, turn 3 the spanish commander was wiped out. lost alot of i6swhichfells like i have lost a unit.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
on to teruel
hero aiming assistance thrown on recon but poor hero really but if it gets more exp its ok
proto type italian aa gun so bit useless.
new units
none
set up
T26* (envelopment) (OS 15)
BT5* (OS 15)
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15) (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
hero aiming assistance thrown on recon but poor hero really but if it gets more exp its ok
proto type italian aa gun so bit useless.
new units
none
set up
T26* (envelopment) (OS 15)
BT5* (OS 15)
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15) (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
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- Sergeant - 7.5 cm FK 16 nA
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
on to teruel
hero aiming assistance thrown on recon but poor hero really but if it gets more exp its ok
proto type italian aa gun so bit useless.
new units
none
set up
T26* (envelopment) (OS 15)
BT5* (OS 15)
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15) (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
hero aiming assistance thrown on recon but poor hero really but if it gets more exp its ok
proto type italian aa gun so bit useless.
new units
none
set up
T26* (envelopment) (OS 15)
BT5* (OS 15)
Trubia* (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Sdkfz 231
aac 1937 (OS 15) (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
Hs 123a * (x3 entrenchment)
Re: AO beg steal and steal again
aiming assistance is really good on anti-tank, they often lag behind in experience without it.
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- Sergeant - 7.5 cm FK 16 nA
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
teruel turned into a real prestige drain mainly due to allies , cavalry expensive to keep healing. Apart from that it was fairly straight forward truck got stuck with the fog and had to crawl its way home.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
Aragon offensive an all i need to do is boost prestige , prototype was italian AA again, hero was expert support which isnt big deal so may sell it if i dont get enough prestige in this round
new unit recon change to bt 6 due to prototypes running out
set up
T26* *(envelopment) (OS 15)
BT5** (OS 15, steam roller)
pPz 2a
Trubia** (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Ba6
aac 1937** (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
20mm flak *
new unit recon change to bt 6 due to prototypes running out
set up
T26* *(envelopment) (OS 15)
BT5** (OS 15, steam roller)
pPz 2a
Trubia** (OS 15)
Panzer* 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 *(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Ba6
aac 1937** (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
20mm flak *
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
so aragon completed and god good prestige boost going into the big one.
pretty straight forward map , bit of a breather before ebro, and fingers crossed for overwhelming attack.
pretty straight forward map , bit of a breather before ebro, and fingers crossed for overwhelming attack.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
so ebro and my hero is ........prudent so sold it, prototype is mobile a but ill stick with the a i have.
no new units
set up
BT5** (OS 15, steam roller)
pPz 2a
Trubia** (OS 15)
Panzer** 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 **(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 **(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Ba6 **
aac 1937** (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs exp support OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
20mm flak *
he51 *
I-16 * (halland)
hs123a *
auxillary
auxillary
L3/33
L3/35
m11/39
breda aa
no new units
set up
BT5** (OS 15, steam roller)
pPz 2a
Trubia** (OS 15)
Panzer** 1b (OS 15)
verdja* (OS 15)
Sdkfz 221 **(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
unl 37 **(Fearsome rep) (OS 15)
Ba6 **
aac 1937** (OS 15)
203mm M1931 *(zero slots, field repairs exp support OS 15)
122mm 10/30 *
10.5 cm leFH 18 *
152mm m 10/30 * (reduced slots)
88 mm Flak 18 *(camouflage)
76mm vickers
2cm flak
3.7 cm flak
20mm flak *
he51 *
I-16 * (halland)
hs123a *
auxillary
auxillary
L3/33
L3/35
m11/39
breda aa
Re: AO beg steal and steal again
Aiming Assistance is really good hero. Also very good on Fighter Planes. They assist ground units too and get XP that way.
Also I came to like the Prudent Hero. I'm playing with 1 hero per unit only an I put it on the OS15 Verdaja tank. In 1939 it never got below 10 str so far ( and that was only once)
And a 10str Verdaja immune to damage is good!
Also I came to like the Prudent Hero. I'm playing with 1 hero per unit only an I put it on the OS15 Verdaja tank. In 1939 it never got below 10 str so far ( and that was only once)
And a 10str Verdaja immune to damage is good!
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
while there are definitely some useless heroes out there, its not as many as people think some marginal heroes i sold to keep me going , I wasn't 100% needed but made things less stressful.
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Re: AO beg steal and steal again
so after a few attempts at ebro i eventually got job done maybe due to some kinder spwaning, as is usual with SCW i played out the raid for expand madrid was a mess despitemy good intentions the battle feels like theres no real consequence due to all your disposable infantry. the set up really hurts at ebro, the lack of any decent airforce is very problematic even with AA vet as you have little mobility to respond to a happenings around such large front.