Petronel Cavalry
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Petronel Cavalry
Shouldn't the late period German (Imperial) army list include the option of one unit of petronel cavalry?
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
They already had,if you mean the Late Medieval,already in the tabletop army list(Mounted handgunners).You can use them from the 1450 AD.Another thing I wanna ask is(Hope the Mr.Richard will answer me when he see it)will the Late Medieval knights/MAAs' armour ratings change to fully armoured in FoG2:Medieval instead of heavily armoured in FoG tabletop?As in Late Medieval they're usually armed with mail under plates,brigandine with plates etc.
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
Later period MAA will be Fully Armoured - armour rating 300. (In fact they were Fully Armoured in tabletop too, it is just that the nomenclature has changed between tabletop and computer to allow extra shades of armour rating - i.e. Heavily Armoured is armour rating 250 in FOG2 Medieval, but was equivalent to Fully Armoured in tabletop).Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:39 amAnother thing I wanna ask is will the Late Medieval knights/MAAs' armour ratings change to fully armoured in FoG2:Medieval instead of heavily armoured in FoG tabletop?
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Thanks for the answer mister.rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:50 amLater period MAA will be Fully Armoured - armour rating 300. (In fact they were Fully Armoured in tabletop too, it is just that the nomenclature has changed between tabletop and computer to allow extra shades of armour rating - i.e. Heavily Armoured is armour rating 250 in FOG2 Medieval, but was equivalent to Fully Armoured in tabletop).Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:39 amAnother thing I wanna ask is will the Late Medieval knights/MAAs' armour ratings change to fully armoured in FoG2:Medieval instead of heavily armoured in FoG tabletop?
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
Yeah, I guess that I have to wait until the Renaissance period.
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
I guess you don't.
FoG:Medieval will eventually cover the medieval period until 1500.
There are German mounted handgunners in the TT game from 1450.
1450-1500 seems to be an interesting period !
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OK, looking forward to Petronel cavalry in the game; the ancestor of the pistol and the carbine.
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The nice smell of the gunpowder is coming (in FoG:M) : light guns, bombards, lightfoot handgunners, mounted handgunners...
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
Let's hope that FOG2Medieval has graphic smoke effects like P&S. Smokeless gunpowder wasn't available until the 18th century.
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Yes we definitely do hope to see some smoke fx billowing forth from the boomsticks!
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How widespread was this smokeless gunpowder? I am quite familiar with the Napoleonic period which is early 19th century and you always see swaths of smoke in pictures and movies that depict the battles..
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
The American Civil War battlefields, likewise, were quickly blanketed with dense smoke from the intense musket and cannon fire. Having seen first hand a reenactment of Gettysburg, I can attest that even after a few volleys, visibility drops dramatically - and the reenactors were certainly not maintaining the same level of fire that was historically likely.SLancaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:12 amHow widespread was this smokeless gunpowder? I am quite familiar with the Napoleonic period which is early 19th century and you always see swaths of smoke in pictures and movies that depict the battles..
Smokeless powder wasn't available till the end of the 19th century. The first rifle introduced using it, the Lebel, came out in 1887. As I recall, US troops were quite discomforted by their first encounters with smokeless power in Cuba used by the Spanish during the Spanish American War in 1898.
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
My mistake. I typed 18th century instead of late 1800's. Sorry for the confusion.SLancaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:12 am How widespread was this smokeless gunpowder? I am quite familiar with the Napoleonic period which is early 19th century and you always see swaths of smoke in pictures and movies that depict the battles..
I have a miniatures early Renaissance German Imperial army, that includes a stand of Petronel cavalry. The name was derived from the French word poitrine (chest) because the butt of the handgun usually rested against the chest when fired. Note from the figure below, they were well armoured.
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Re: Petronel Cavalry
They already treated as armoured as you see in the rulebook,also this miniature is based on a manuscript,which from the 1505 AD(It's pretty old school that man used a handgonne-like firearm in this period,as the matchlocks were already widely spread in the Western Europe).w_michael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:13 pmMy mistake. I typed 18th century instead of late 1800's. Sorry for the confusion.SLancaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:12 am How widespread was this smokeless gunpowder? I am quite familiar with the Napoleonic period which is early 19th century and you always see swaths of smoke in pictures and movies that depict the battles..
I have a miniatures early Renaissance German Imperial army, that includes a stand of Petronel cavalry. The name was derived from the French word poitrine (chest) because the butt of the handgun usually rested against the chest when fired. Note from the figure below, they were well armoured.
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I played against Ghaznavid Naffatun for the first time, and loved the bomb graphics. Very nice.
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