Artillery:In Front or Beside??

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Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by Blathergut » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:44 pm

Do you prefer to deploy artillery in front of infantry units, softening up targets, prolonging closer, then charging through the artillery with the infantry?

Or do you keep artillery beside the infantry, maximizing firepower over a greater number of targets?

Or this is a truly silly question?? 8) (How can you tell I'm bored? Besides...I think FoGFantasy is getting more posts than here!)

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by Saxonian » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:27 am

My usual habit these days is beside, as part of the main battle line.
Putting any unit in front of the main battle line is simply inviting the enemy to concentrate fire on it, as was demonstrated to me in a game where two skirmishing light infantry were unloading 10 dice hitting on 5's onto my heavy artillery unit from 5.9MU away (meaning they were out of charge reach of the supporting infantry immediately behind them) and only receiving 6 dice between them in return, hitting on 6's. :( It wasn't pretty!
Arty can be in advance of cavalry and be better protected, but you still have to pass that pesky CMT to charge through them - so again, better off to one side.

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by hazelbark » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:04 pm

I put them next to, not in front of.

Occasionally I will bring up a unit up to charge through/ protect the games.

But firepower is key and concentrating is even more important.

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by KendallB » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:17 pm

Next to in order to maximise firepower. Generally try to have two artillery units working together side by side with veteran cavalry behind them ready to pop through to exploit a disordered/wavering opponent or chase off skirmishing light infantry.

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by KitG » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:39 am

In front of, when in defence: Then you 'pop' through them in the movement phase and there you are, usually uphill and within two inches of a disordered band of greasy foreign johnnies...Baaaah!

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by KeefM » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:07 pm

On attack: batteries paired up to fire at inside- or outside-corner of the point of attack. Or wide on one flank.

On defence: in the line and paired in order to discourage an attack at that place in favour of somewhere else more suitable to me.

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by KendallB » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:38 am

KitG wrote:Then you 'pop' through them in the movement phase and there you are
This is how Kit gets to move his British infantry 7MU!

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by geoff » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:40 am

KendallB wrote:
KitG wrote:Then you 'pop' through them in the movement phase and there you are
This is how Kit gets to move his British infantry 7MU!
Luckily the errata for page 40 stops this;

Page 40: MOVING THROUGH FREINDLY UNITS - (RH Column) After 6th bullet point above Add another bullet point:
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 "No unit can increase its move distance by more than 50% when moving through another unit, other than as part of an outcome move.”

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by KendallB » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:43 am

Thanks Geoff!

I knew there was something in the rules which prevented it but couldn't find it. Typical Kit shonkeyness!

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by BrettPT » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:58 pm

Bloody Goldsbury.
Dodgy bugger.

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by KitG » Thu May 14, 2015 1:20 am

What a bunch of errata munching rules lawyers you lot have become. Next you'll be telling me I can't turn to face my cavalry in any direction after a successful recovery. Bah!

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by Glyph » Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:45 pm

What about a slow advance...moving behind prolonging artillery...keeping that cavalry or infantry unit behind protected from ranged fire?

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by Blathergut » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:19 pm

You just can't depend on the artillery actually prolonging! It tends to be a VERY slow advance!! :)

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Re: Artillery:In Front or Beside??

Post by bahdahbum » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:40 am

We have already played 5 big battles in a 1813 campaign . Artillery was used ( by the french ) as a batterig ram and it worked even if in the end the result was a draw . It is slow but once the attacker is near enough, whole divisions can be shattered in 2-3 turns which is historical if you concentrate enough guns .

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