Saka-Greek list from the Tyrant novels

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Saka-Greek list from the Tyrant novels

Post by stecal » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:21 am

Not properly a historical armylist, but one based on the Tyrant series books set in the time of Alexander the Great by author and wargamer Christian Cameron. I highly recommend his military historical fiction novels. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UXLK3K/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk

http://www.hippeis.com/gaming.html for pretty pictures of the miniatures

The Allied Army at the Ford of the River God
(Tyrant Book One)
by Noel White
(For “Fields of Glory” by Osprey)

800 pt list from the Skythian or Saka list with a Black Sea Greek (Classical Greek) Ally.

Field Commander, (CinC) Kineas 50pts
Field Commander, Satrax 50pts
Troop Commander, Kam Baqça 35pts
Allied Troop Commander, Memnon 25pts
Total: 160pts


Skythian Army

(Kineas' Assistants) Grass Cats 4x Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
CAV, Bow, Swordsmen 40pts
Standing Horse 4x Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
CAV, Bow, Swordsmen 40pts
Sindi Archers 6X Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
LF, Bow 30pts
Other Archers 6X Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
LF, Bow 30pts

(Flanking Force) Patient Wolves 6x Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
CAV, Bow, Swordsmen 60pts
Cruel Hands 6x Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
CAV, Bow, Swordsmen 60pts
Royal Clan 4x Unprotected, Undrilled, Superior,
CAV, Lancer, Swordsmen 64pts
Sauramatae 4x Unprotected, Undrilled, Superior,
CAV, Lancer, Swordsmen 64pts
Mixed Scouts 6x Unprotected, Undrilled, Average,
LH, Bow, Swordsmen 60pts
Total: 448pts

Greek Allies
Olbian Hoplites 8x Armoured, Undrilled, Average,
HF, Offensive Spear 72pts
Pantacapaeum Hoplites 8x Armoured, Undrilled, Average,
HF, Offensive Spear 72pts
Greek Horse 4x Armoured, Drilled, Average,
CAV, Light Spear, Swordsmen 52pts
Total: 196pts

Special Rule -- Aryanam -- Kineas may affect allied troops as if they were in Line of Command.
Total Army Points: 804

Notes:
I have broken a chronological restriction here. Black Sea Greeks are only available as allies at 313 BC. Lancer CAV are only available after 300BC. “Early style” Greek hoplites are only available before 460 BC.

I selected “Early style” Greek hoplites to represent the Olbians for 3 reasons: The majority are described in the text as well armoured, old fashioned in training (undrilled) and in need of Memnon's leadership. If he leads the hoplites, they should be able to hold the phalanx as described in the text (-POA at impact but evens in melee). Undrilled, though not a perfect classification, seems appropriate as Memnon's presence will negate the majority of the drawbacks and it will have little effect on the battle.

The skirmishing Sindi archers are described as carrying heavy axes. For LF in FoG this is a useless melee capability and has been ignored.

Satrax, perhaps justifiably the CinC, appears as a sub-commander in order to lead the flank march. This also allows our hero Kineas to orchestrate the battle as in the book and “bolster” or “lead from the front” any battle group -- the special rule permits this fully. Kam Baqça, an odd choice for a commander, is given a role in order to “bolster” the faltering Sakje when they need it just as in the book (her retinue of 50 by no means justify a battle group). Alternatively, Kam Baqça could be swapped for Marthax and ride with the flank march.

The Skythians (Sakje) themselves are best represented as CAV in this case. They will be required to mix-it-up with other heavy cavalry, and designating them as LH will not permit this.
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Re: Saka-Greek list from the Tyrant novels

Post by philqw78 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:16 am

The skirmishing Sindi archers are described as carrying heavy axes. For LF in FoG this is a useless melee capability and has been ignored
Give them swordsmen capability. A heavy axe for skirmishing troops would not be as big as a heavy axe for battle troops. If troops are decent in melee they get swordsman capability and there are LF that have it in the published lists.
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