“Ist FoG Challenger’s Tournament - Swords & Scimitars Sc

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“Ist FoG Challenger’s Tournament - Swords & Scimitars Sc

Post by Lysimachos » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:24 pm

“Ist FoG Challenger’s Tournament - Swords & Scimitars Scenarios”

Rules

The tournament foresee the presence of 24 participants, that will confront them in a preliminary round made up of 8 groups of 3 players each. The first 2 players in each group will be qualified to the next preliminary phase, made up of 4 groups of 4 players. Then the first 2 players in each group will be qualified for the knockout phase of quarter-finals, semi-finals and final.
In order to grant the creation of balanced groups the participants will be divided in 2 bands, one of 8 and the other of 16 players, taking roughly care of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen’s results and the medal table edited by hidde, so that in each group there will be only one of the players ranked in the first band.
The formation of the groups will be decided with a lottery draw verifiable by everyone.

All the matches of the preliminary rounds and of the knockout phase will be resolved, using the paired game option, by playing the 9 scenarios prepared ad hoc , following the subsequent pattern:

First Preliminary Round
match 1 Bulgarians-Serbians
match 2 Kara-Khanids vs Khwarazmians
match 3 Fatimids-Crusaders

Second Preliminary Round
match 1 Cumans vs Georgians
match 2 Abbasids vs Zangids
match 3 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians

Quarter finals
match 1 Ayyubids vs Outremer Latins

Semi-Finals
match 1 Byzantines vs Normans

Final
match 1 Mamluks vs Mongols

The scenarios are downloadable here:
Abbasids vs Zangids
http://www.mediafire.com/?2c1a5f8oa3psj9i
Ayyubids vs Outremer Latins
http://www.mediafire.com/?r2s159s49rf6l9d
Bulgarians vs Serbians
http://www.mediafire.com/?cvv450kyw6idh2w
Byzantines vs Normans
http://www.mediafire.com/?3bhr4wwirurskud
Cumans vs Georgians
http://www.mediafire.com/?ha1adwlm0zsk9m7
Fatimid vs Crusaders
http://www.mediafire.com/?vn48ubr442d3tsw
Kara-Khanids vs Khwarazmians
http://www.mediafire.com/?4angccoin9k9ge9
Mamluks vs Mongols
http://www.mediafire.com/?4u5ambsqarrr9ka
Armenians vs Seljuk Turks
http://www.mediafire.com/?2a80ogzxw47bt9p

The points will be awarded to the players taking care of the comprehensive results of each paired game, in the following manner:
8 pts. 2 victories
7 pts. 1 victory 1 draw
5 pts. 1 victory 1 defeat (with better BG difference)
4 pts. 2 draws / 1 victory 1 defeat (with equal BG difference)
3 pts. 1 defeat 1 victory (with worst BG difference)
1 pts. 1 draw 1 defeat
0 pts. 2 defeats
The BG difference will be comprehensively calculated counting in positive for the winner the number of BG lacking to reach the loss threshold and counting in negative for the looser the number of BG overpassing it.
Example:
Crusaders (35/39) = +4
Ayyubids (47/41) = -6
Total BG difference = Crusaders +10

Whereas two players will end a match of the knockout phase in a draw, they will play another play-off paired match to decide who will be qualified.
Last edited by Lysimachos on Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:21 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post by Lysimachos » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:26 pm

At the moment the following 21 players have adhered to the tournament:
Archie
batesmotel
CheAhn
claymore
deeter
davouthojo
dazzam
gazxtrix
hidde
iandavidsmith
ianiow
jimcdaw
jimcrowley
Lysimachos
MesaDon
Morbio
pantherboy
petran1978
rom1944
TheGrayMouser
Triarius

We need 3 more players to end the recruitment phase.
So, if everybody is interested, let sign up here.
We're waiting you! :wink:
"Audentis fortuna iuvat"
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Post by Xiccarph » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:24 am

I can if there is still an opening.

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Post by tofman04 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:14 am

Hi,

Put me in if it's still a place available.

Cheers

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Post by Lysimachos » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:14 am

Wonderful, with the presence of tofman04, Xiccarph and deadtorius we're now 24 and the recruitment phase is over! :)
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Post by Lysimachos » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:47 am

For a mistake I downloaded an older and not completely tested version of the following scenarios that won’t open.
The correct version is downloadable at the subsequent web-pages:

Cumans vs Georgians http://www.mediafire.com/?ha1adwlm0zsk9m7

Mamluks vs Mongols http://www.mediafire.com/?4u5ambsqarrr9ka
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Post by petergarnett » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:09 am

If anyone drops out Id like to join please.

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Post by Lysimachos » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:35 am

In order to grant the creation of balanced groups the participants are now divided in 2 bands, one of 8 and the other of 16 players, taking roughly care of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen’s results and the medal table edited by hidde, so that in each group there will be only one of the players ranked in the first band.
Obviously the organizer is in the 1st band not for his merit but just to avoid the strongest players in the 1st preliminary round!
To randomly determine the composition of the 8 groups of 3 players, each participant will be connected to a number of the “wheels” of the Italian lottery that will take place Tuesday 15th March at 20.00 h. and whose results will be verifiable here:
http://www.lottomaticaitalia.it/home/index.html

The player of the 1st band with the highest result will be placed in Group 1, the second in Group 2 and so on.
The player of the 2nd band with the highest result will be placed in Group 1, the second in Group 1, the 3rd in Group 2, the 4th in Group 2 and so on.
If two players will score the same result will be taken care of the alphabetical order.

1st Band

batesmotel
1st number Bari

davouthojo
1st number Cagliari

deeter
1st number Firenze

hidde
1st number Genova

ianiow
1st number Milano

Lysimachos
1st number Napoli

Morbio
1st number Palermo

pantherboy
1st number Roma

2nd Band

Archie
2nd number Bari

CheAhn
2nd number Cagliari

claymore
2nd number Firenze

deadtorius
2nd number Genova

dazzam
2nd number Milano

gazxtrix
2nd number Napoli

iandavidsmith
2nd number Palermo

jimcdaw
2nd number Roma

petergarnett
3rd number Bari

MesaDon
3rd number Cagliari

petran1978
3rd number Firenze

rom1944
3rd number Genova

TheGrayMouser
3rd number Milano

tofman04
3rd number Napoli

Triarius
3rd number Palermo

Xiccarph
3rd number Roma

For the next phase there will be no need of random draws becasue the schedule is already fixed.
Last edited by Lysimachos on Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by Lysimachos » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:52 am

The match schedule is the following:

Ist Preliminary Round

Group 1
A-B Bulgarians vs Serbians
B-C Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
C-A Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: A1,A2

Group 2
D-E Bulgarians vs Serbians
E-F Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
F-D Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: B1, B2

Group 3
G-H Bulgarians vs Serbians
H-I Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
I-G Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: C1, C2

Group 4
J-K Bulgarians vs Serbians
K-L Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
L-J Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: D1, D2

Group 5
M-N Bulgarians vs Serbians
N-O Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
O-M Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: E1, E2

Group 6
P-Q Bulgarians vs Serbians
Q-R Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
R-P Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: F1, F2

Group 7
S-T Bulgarians vs Serbians
T-U Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
U-S Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: G1,G2

Group 8
V-W Bulgarians vs Serbians
W-X Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians
X-V Fatimids vs Crusaders
Qualified: H1, H2
*****

IInd Preliminary Round

Group 9
A1-C2 Cumans vs Georgians
B1-D2 Cumans vs Georgians
C2-B1 Abbasids vs Zangids
D2-A1 Abbasids vs Zangids
A1-B1 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
C2-D2 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
Qualified: I1, I2

Group10
C1-A2 Cumans vs Georgians
D1-B2 Cumans vs Georgians
A2-D1 Abbasids vs Zangids
B2-C1 Abbasids vs Zangids
C1-D1 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
A2-B2 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
Qualified: J1, J2

Group 11
E1-G2 Cumans vs Georgians
F1-H2 Cumans vs Georgians
G2-F1 Abbasids vs Zangids
H2-E1 Abbasids vs Zangids
E1-F1 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
G2-H2 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
Qualified: K1, K2

Group 12
G1-E2 Cumans vs Georgians
H1-F2 Cumans vs Georgians
E2-H1 Abbasids vs Zangids
F2-G1 Abbasids vs Zangids
G1-H1 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
E2-F2 Seljuk Turks vs Armenians
Qualified: L1, L2

*****

Quarter-finals
I1-L2 Ayyubids vs Outremer Latins
Qualified: M
J1-K2 Ayyubids vs Outremer Latins
Qualified: N
K1-J2 Ayyubids vs Outremer Latins
Qualified: O
L1-I2 Ayyubids vs Outremer Latins
Qualified: P

*****

Semi-finals
M-N Byzantines vs Normans
Qualified: Q
O-P Byzantines vs Normans
Qualified: R

*****

Final
Q-R Mamluks vs Mongols


The players of 1st band will be inserted in the 1st preliminary round groups with the letter A, D, G, J, M, P, S, V, taking care of the lottery draws, from the highest to the lowest.
The players of the 2nd band will be inserted with the remaining letters, taking care of the lottery draws, from the highest to the lowest.
If two players will score the same result will be taken care of the alphabetical order.
"Audentis fortuna iuvat"
- Virgilius

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Post by Morbio » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:41 pm

Lysimachos wrote:For a mistake I downloaded an older and not completely tested version of the following scenarios that won’t open.
The correct version is downloadable at the subsequent web-pages:

Cumans vs Georgians http://www.mediafire.com/?ha1adwlm0zsk9m7

Mamluks vs Mongols http://www.mediafire.com/?4u5ambsqarrr9ka
Just a suggestion: Wouldn't it be best to copy these amended downloads into the original post? This would mean that all the information needed to download the scenarios is in one place.

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Post by jamespcrowley » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:08 pm

Apologies to all but due to some drastic changes in the workplace and the fact that I will be away at the end of this month for at least a week, I think it is only fair to pull out sooner than later. I simply won't have the time to devote to this tournament.

Perhaps petergarnett could take my place?

Cheers

Jim

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Post by petergarnett » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:21 pm

I'd be happy to join in as from next Monday - away until then after tonight.

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Post by Lysimachos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:07 pm

Just a suggestion: Wouldn't it be best to copy these amended downloads into the original post? This would mean that all the information needed to download the scenarios is in one place.
Thank's for the suggestion. The original post has been amended.

As for jimcrowley he will be replaced by petergarnett.
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Post by Lysimachos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:18 pm

Just a suggestion: Wouldn't it be best to copy these amended downloads into the original post? This would mean that all the information needed to download the scenarios is in one place.
Thank's for the suggestion. The original post has been amended.

As for jimcrowley he will be replaced by petergarnett.
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Post by Lysimachos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:16 pm

Here are the results of the lottery draws, verifiable at this web-page:
http://www.lottomaticaitalia.it/home/index.html

1st Band

pantherboy 73 = Group 1
hidde 72 = Group 2
Morbio 66 = Group 3
davouthojo 65 = Group 4
Lysimachos 35 = Group 5
deeter 31 = Group 6
ianiow 18 = Group 7
batesmotel 15 = Group 8

2nd Band

dazzam 89 = Group 1
CheAhn 79 = Group 1
TheGrayMouser 78 = Group 2
deadtorius 49 = Group 2
Triarius 41 = Group 3
petran1978 36 = Group 3
tofman04 36 = Group 4
MesaDon 32 = Group 4
iandavidsmith 30 = Group 5
jimcdaw 28 = Group 5
rom1944 28 = Group 6
gazxtrix 12 = Group 6
claymore 11 = Group 7
Xiccarph 8 = Group 7
petergarnett 4 = Group 8
Archie 2 = Group 8

The complete schedule of the tournament will follow soon.
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Post by Lysimachos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:52 pm

The match schedule is the following:

Ist Preliminary Round

Group 1
pantherboy - dazzam (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
dazzam - CheAhn (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
CheAhn – pantherboy (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 2
hidde - TheGrayMouser (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
TheGrayMouser - deadtorius (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
deadtorius - hidde (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 3
Morbio - Triarius (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
Triarius – petran1978 (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
petran1978 - Morbio (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 4
davouthojo – tofman04 (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
tofman04 - MesaDon (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
MesaDon - davouthojo (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 5
Lysimachos - iandavidsmith (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
iandavidsmith - jimcdaw (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
jimcdaw - Lysimachos (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 6
deeter – rom1944 (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
rom1944 - gazxtrix (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
gazxtrix - deeter (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 7
ianiow - claymore (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
claymore - Xiccarph (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
Xiccarph - ianiow (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

Group 8
batesmotel - petergarnett (Bulgarians vs Serbians)
petergarnett - Archie (Kara Khanids vs Khwarazmians)
Archie - batesmotel (Fatimids vs Crusaders)

The home player will launch the paired challenge and the winner of the comprehensive paired game will report the results on the forum in this format:
Axis (Bulgarians) 38/42 vs Allies (Serbians) 45/44
Allies (Bulgarians) 34/42 vs Axis (Serbians) 49/44

The matches will be played with the DM option on and the FoW option off, given that, playing scenarios, the placement of units is already known and that fog of war makes the game cumbersome and quite unmanageable.
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Post by TheGrayMouser » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm

Hello, quick Question:

I assume that we will NOT utilise the Free Deployment option?

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Post by Lysimachos » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:13 pm

I thought a while about this question but in the end I preferred to start with the "historical deployment" option given that some scenarios are designed in a way to present some particular disposition of the army, hopingly destined to create some manuevering, that a free deployment would probably avoid.
So let start with the historical deployment and then, if it will prove unfit, we will have time to modify the situation in the next phases. :wink:
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Post by TheGrayMouser » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:21 pm

Just as long as all the players are on the same page because the option comes up when you start the battles .
I personally think it should remain "historical" only since isnt that the point of your nicely balanced user made scenarios?

BTW I think the person who issues the challenge can "lock" out free deployment , but not sure....

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Post by pantherboy » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:05 am

Group 1

pantherboy (Bulgarians) 21/43 vs dazzam (Serbians) 55/50
pantherboy (Serbians) 12/50 vs dazzam (Bulgarians) 46/43

Cheers for the matches dazzam and thank for the encouraging words. Lysimachos thanks for the scenarios. It's nice to use and fight versus units people don't typically buy.

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