Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
Moderators: Slitherine Core, Panzer Corps Design, Panzer Corps Moderators
Lippisch P.13
This 1942 single-seat twin-engined Zerstörer and Schnellbomber was one of the most interesting, but also most controversial project studies during Dr. Lippisch's time at the Messerschmitt AG. Like so many other unusual designs, it failed to gain positive response from the RLM and thus never saw the light of day.
Download
_____
rezaf
This 1942 single-seat twin-engined Zerstörer and Schnellbomber was one of the most interesting, but also most controversial project studies during Dr. Lippisch's time at the Messerschmitt AG. Like so many other unusual designs, it failed to gain positive response from the RLM and thus never saw the light of day.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
Messerschmitt Me 265
After continuing problems with the Me 210 which eventually caused it's production to be halted, Messerschmitt conceived the Me 265 to fill the gap until a proper successor would become available. However, the improved version of the Me 210, the Me 410, turned out to have satisfactory performance, so work on the Me 265 was stopped despite it's highly advanced design stage.
Download
_____
rezaf
After continuing problems with the Me 210 which eventually caused it's production to be halted, Messerschmitt conceived the Me 265 to fill the gap until a proper successor would become available. However, the improved version of the Me 210, the Me 410, turned out to have satisfactory performance, so work on the Me 265 was stopped despite it's highly advanced design stage.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
Messerschmitt Me 329
A larger, heavier variant of the Me 265 this design showed promising characteristics, but when the course of the war caused the projects cancellation, it had only progressed to mockup stage.
Download
_____
rezaf
A larger, heavier variant of the Me 265 this design showed promising characteristics, but when the course of the war caused the projects cancellation, it had only progressed to mockup stage.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
Dornier P.256
This design for a night- and high-altitude fighter based on the Do 335 was one of Dorniers latest projects - it was only started in March 1945. Unsurprisingly, not much progress was made before the war came to an end shortly thereafter.
Download
_____
rezaf
This design for a night- and high-altitude fighter based on the Do 335 was one of Dorniers latest projects - it was only started in March 1945. Unsurprisingly, not much progress was made before the war came to an end shortly thereafter.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
Henschel P.122
Only submitted to the RLM in early 1945, the P.122 was one of Germany's last heavy zerstörer projects. Its specialized role was supposed raids on Allied airfields. The end of the war prevented any further work on the project shortly before it was started.
Download
_____
rezaf
Only submitted to the RLM in early 1945, the P.122 was one of Germany's last heavy zerstörer projects. Its specialized role was supposed raids on Allied airfields. The end of the war prevented any further work on the project shortly before it was started.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
Messerschmitt P.1079
This designation actually encompassed a series of designs, all of which had one thing in common: They were to be powered by SR 500 pulsejets. Due to problems with these engines, none of the envisioned planes were actually ever produced.
Download
_____
rezaf
This designation actually encompassed a series of designs, all of which had one thing in common: They were to be powered by SR 500 pulsejets. Due to problems with these engines, none of the envisioned planes were actually ever produced.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
Bachem Ba 349 "Natter"
In 1944, a RLM requirement called for a "Verschleissflugzeug" (short-life aircraft), to which several of the bigger aircraft companies responsed. However, an absolute outsider made the running: Dipl.Ing. Erich Bachems "Natter".
The first operational prototypes were completed at an astounding pace and available only a few months after the production contract had been awarded. Still, the conclusion of the war brought this project to an end before the Ba 349 could see operational use.
Download
_____
rezaf
In 1944, a RLM requirement called for a "Verschleissflugzeug" (short-life aircraft), to which several of the bigger aircraft companies responsed. However, an absolute outsider made the running: Dipl.Ing. Erich Bachems "Natter".
The first operational prototypes were completed at an astounding pace and available only a few months after the production contract had been awarded. Still, the conclusion of the war brought this project to an end before the Ba 349 could see operational use.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
Junkers EF.127
Submitted to a RLM specification for an "Objektschutzjäger" (target defense interceptor) in late 1944 this rocket-powered aicraft didn't even make it to prototype stage before the war ended.
Download
_____
rezaf
Submitted to a RLM specification for an "Objektschutzjäger" (target defense interceptor) in late 1944 this rocket-powered aicraft didn't even make it to prototype stage before the war ended.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
Arado E.381
Submitted to the RLMs "Jägernotprogramm", this "Kleinstjäger" (miniature fighter) was to be air-lifted to its operation area by an Ar 234 parent aircraft, where it was to utilize a rocket engine to fight off enemy bombers, whose gunners would have had a hard time hitting the extremely small craft. The project hadn't progressed beyond prototype stage when the RLM lost interest in the final months of the war.
Download
_____
rezaf
Submitted to the RLMs "Jägernotprogramm", this "Kleinstjäger" (miniature fighter) was to be air-lifted to its operation area by an Ar 234 parent aircraft, where it was to utilize a rocket engine to fight off enemy bombers, whose gunners would have had a hard time hitting the extremely small craft. The project hadn't progressed beyond prototype stage when the RLM lost interest in the final months of the war.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
Blohm & Voss BV 40
This concept for a heavily armored "Gleitjäger" (glide fighter) without any kind of engine reached prototype stage, but when those prototypes were destroyed in an allied air raid, it put an end to the project.
Download
_____
rezaf
This concept for a heavily armored "Gleitjäger" (glide fighter) without any kind of engine reached prototype stage, but when those prototypes were destroyed in an allied air raid, it put an end to the project.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Zeppelin "Fliegende Panzerfaust"
Another design for a rocket powered miniature fighter, the "Flying Bazooka" was to be towed to operation altitude by a Bf109 fighter, after which it was supposed to attack enemy bomber formations with its small rocket armament and, finally, a ramming attack, after which both pilot and the remnants of the aircraft were to descend by parachute. A full scale mockup was constructed in early 1945, but soon thereafter the end of the war put an end to the project as well.
Download
_____
rezaf
Another design for a rocket powered miniature fighter, the "Flying Bazooka" was to be towed to operation altitude by a Bf109 fighter, after which it was supposed to attack enemy bomber formations with its small rocket armament and, finally, a ramming attack, after which both pilot and the remnants of the aircraft were to descend by parachute. A full scale mockup was constructed in early 1945, but soon thereafter the end of the war put an end to the project as well.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Zeppelin Rammer
Like the Fliegende Panzerfaust, this was a design for a rocket-powered miniature fighter with a small armament intended for a single attack run, followed by a desperate ramming attack. The project ended when the Zeppelin Werke were destroyed by a bombing raid.
Download
_____
rezaf
Like the Fliegende Panzerfaust, this was a design for a rocket-powered miniature fighter with a small armament intended for a single attack run, followed by a desperate ramming attack. The project ended when the Zeppelin Werke were destroyed by a bombing raid.
Download
_____
rezaf
Last edited by rezaf on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
- 2nd Lieutenant - Panzer IVF/2
- Posts: 696
- Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:39 pm
- Location: Eifel / south of Aachen
I never knew the Luftwaffe had so many secret designs...
Assigning stats to air units is very tricky. I've been thinking on how to rebalance the air units, for instance, so that the Hurricane Mk I is at least somewhat competitive with the Bf-109E. One problem is that air defense shouldn't really just be armor, but also a factor of maneuverability. If anyone has some ideas about this, I'd be quite interested.
One air unit which I feel is balanced quite well is the IL2. Those things take forever to shoot down now.
Assigning stats to air units is very tricky. I've been thinking on how to rebalance the air units, for instance, so that the Hurricane Mk I is at least somewhat competitive with the Bf-109E. One problem is that air defense shouldn't really just be armor, but also a factor of maneuverability. If anyone has some ideas about this, I'd be quite interested.
One air unit which I feel is balanced quite well is the IL2. Those things take forever to shoot down now.
-
- Panzer Corps Moderator
- Posts: 2112
- Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:32 am