Southampton 2014
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Southampton 2014
Date is now available
SUNDAY 21st September, please could someone put this in the announcements section
Cheers
Alasdair
]Any player may use any of the lists below with the exception that anybody ranked in the top 20 FOG R rankings may not take a Swiss army or use any integral Swiss.
Southampton 2014
1400-1558
b]Army Lists From Trade and Treachery
Maximillian Imperial, German States, Italian Wars French, Trastamara Spanish, Italian States, Italian Wars Venetian, Early Henrican English, Scottish, Border Reivers, Irish, Anglo Irish, Swiss, Caroline Imperialist, Later Henrican English
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Army lists from Storm Of Arrows (with amendments listed below)
HYW English (Continental), HYW English (Britain), War of the Roses English, Medieval Welsh, Later Medieval Scots (Britain), Later Medieval Scots (Continental), Later Scots Isles and Highlands, Later Anglo-Irish, Medieval Irish, Medieval French, Ordonnance French, Free Company, Later Low Countries, Medieval Burgundian, Ordannance Burgundian, Swiss (see note above), Later Medieval German, Condotta Italian, Medieval Crown of Aragon, Medieval Portugese, Medieval Castilian, Santa Hermandad Neeva Castillian, Later Granadine
Armies dated prior to the commencement of the FOGR lists must be legal under the FOGAM lists, with the following changes to make them fit the FOGR rules:
1) Points cost: All points costs are as per the FOGR rules. To facilitate the correct application of these points values, please could all armies (if possible) be submitted using Paul Freeman’s excellent spreadsheet, the latest version of which can be found on http://www.badwargamers.org.uk/ (follow the downloads link).
2) Capabilities: Lancers capability counts as Heavy Lancers if the troops are Knights, Light Lancers otherwise. Mounted Light Spear capability counts as Light Lancers. Skilled Swordsmen capability counts as Swordsmen. Offensive and Defensive Spearmen capability count as Spearmen. Longbows count as Bows. Firearms count as Bombs if the troops are using bombs (e.g. Naffatun), Arquebus if the troops are foot using handguns, Carbine if they are mounted using handgun.
3) Troop types: Knights count as Gendarmes. Where guidance is needed, consult any later equivalent army in the FOGR lists and assume the same classification applies.
4) Armour: All European Protected Heavy (or Determined) Foot can be fielded as Unarmoured or Armoured. Up to a total of 2 battle groups of the Protected Medium Foot battle groups in a European army can be fielded as Armoured, the rest must be Unarmoured. Non-European Protected foot, and all Protected mounted, must be fielded as Unarmoured. The Umpire’s decision will be final as to what constitutes European. Heavily Armoured Knights are treated as Fully Armoured, whether mounted or (where permitted) dismounted. Heavily Armoured Cataphracts are treated as Heavily Armoured. Heavily Armoured foot are treated as Heavily Armoured.
5) List amendments:
i. All Drilled Average Knights specified as “mercenary” (including Burgundian Ordonnance men-at-arms) gain the option to be fielded as Superior. Armies with Drilled Superior Knights gain the option to upgrade one battle group of these to Elite.
ii. All Heavy or Determined Foot battle groups including Pikemen can be up to 16 bases in size. (Provided of course that the total bases allowed by the army list permits this). Up to 2 bases in a pike unit can have heavy weapon instead of pike. (This does not contribute to any minimum of heavy weapon bases).
iii. Swiss Heavy Foot are treated as Determined Foot, and can be Unarmoured or Armoured, Superior or Elite.
SUNDAY 21st September, please could someone put this in the announcements section
Cheers
Alasdair
]Any player may use any of the lists below with the exception that anybody ranked in the top 20 FOG R rankings may not take a Swiss army or use any integral Swiss.
Southampton 2014
1400-1558
b]Army Lists From Trade and Treachery
Maximillian Imperial, German States, Italian Wars French, Trastamara Spanish, Italian States, Italian Wars Venetian, Early Henrican English, Scottish, Border Reivers, Irish, Anglo Irish, Swiss, Caroline Imperialist, Later Henrican English
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Army lists from Storm Of Arrows (with amendments listed below)
HYW English (Continental), HYW English (Britain), War of the Roses English, Medieval Welsh, Later Medieval Scots (Britain), Later Medieval Scots (Continental), Later Scots Isles and Highlands, Later Anglo-Irish, Medieval Irish, Medieval French, Ordonnance French, Free Company, Later Low Countries, Medieval Burgundian, Ordannance Burgundian, Swiss (see note above), Later Medieval German, Condotta Italian, Medieval Crown of Aragon, Medieval Portugese, Medieval Castilian, Santa Hermandad Neeva Castillian, Later Granadine
Armies dated prior to the commencement of the FOGR lists must be legal under the FOGAM lists, with the following changes to make them fit the FOGR rules:
1) Points cost: All points costs are as per the FOGR rules. To facilitate the correct application of these points values, please could all armies (if possible) be submitted using Paul Freeman’s excellent spreadsheet, the latest version of which can be found on http://www.badwargamers.org.uk/ (follow the downloads link).
2) Capabilities: Lancers capability counts as Heavy Lancers if the troops are Knights, Light Lancers otherwise. Mounted Light Spear capability counts as Light Lancers. Skilled Swordsmen capability counts as Swordsmen. Offensive and Defensive Spearmen capability count as Spearmen. Longbows count as Bows. Firearms count as Bombs if the troops are using bombs (e.g. Naffatun), Arquebus if the troops are foot using handguns, Carbine if they are mounted using handgun.
3) Troop types: Knights count as Gendarmes. Where guidance is needed, consult any later equivalent army in the FOGR lists and assume the same classification applies.
4) Armour: All European Protected Heavy (or Determined) Foot can be fielded as Unarmoured or Armoured. Up to a total of 2 battle groups of the Protected Medium Foot battle groups in a European army can be fielded as Armoured, the rest must be Unarmoured. Non-European Protected foot, and all Protected mounted, must be fielded as Unarmoured. The Umpire’s decision will be final as to what constitutes European. Heavily Armoured Knights are treated as Fully Armoured, whether mounted or (where permitted) dismounted. Heavily Armoured Cataphracts are treated as Heavily Armoured. Heavily Armoured foot are treated as Heavily Armoured.
5) List amendments:
i. All Drilled Average Knights specified as “mercenary” (including Burgundian Ordonnance men-at-arms) gain the option to be fielded as Superior. Armies with Drilled Superior Knights gain the option to upgrade one battle group of these to Elite.
ii. All Heavy or Determined Foot battle groups including Pikemen can be up to 16 bases in size. (Provided of course that the total bases allowed by the army list permits this). Up to 2 bases in a pike unit can have heavy weapon instead of pike. (This does not contribute to any minimum of heavy weapon bases).
iii. Swiss Heavy Foot are treated as Determined Foot, and can be Unarmoured or Armoured, Superior or Elite.
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Re: Southampton 2014
Hoorah, I can field some of these guys so please count me in provisionally and I can confirm once the date is known.
That said I will use the IW French as last year under my usual procedure of playing with the same army time and time again until it wins. This can take years.
However, my aims for this tournament are:
1. Not to come last again, anything else is a result.
2.Actually get the Swiss into action without the keils routing due to artillery fire.
3. Have a good time despite coming last( which is quite likely to be honest)
There are a few more IW and Late Medieval armies at the club now compared to last year so I should get more practice in.
That said I will use the IW French as last year under my usual procedure of playing with the same army time and time again until it wins. This can take years.
However, my aims for this tournament are:
1. Not to come last again, anything else is a result.
2.Actually get the Swiss into action without the keils routing due to artillery fire.
3. Have a good time despite coming last( which is quite likely to be honest)
There are a few more IW and Late Medieval armies at the club now compared to last year so I should get more practice in.
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- Sergeant Major - SdKfz 234/2 8Rad
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Re: Southampton 2014
Date added above
please could someone put this in announcement section
cheers
Alasdair
please could someone put this in announcement section
cheers
Alasdair
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Re: Southampton 2014
Alasdair
Put me down please.
Keith
Put me down please.
Keith
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Re: Southampton 2014
Count me n..
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Re: Southampton 2014
Please reserve a place for me.
Regards Brian.
Regards Brian.
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- Master Sergeant - Bf 109E
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Re: Southampton 2014
Diary all clear so please count me in.
Re: Southampton 2014
A place for me as well.
Bob
Bob
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Re: Southampton 2014
I'm 'Enery the eighth I am, 'Enery the eighth I am, I am!!
I've checked with the wives (5 didn't respond) and it's a "yes" - so put me down for a place!
Damn - I might have given a clue as to my army choice and now EVERYONE will be working on strategies to lay our 'Enery low!!!!!!
Don VIIIth
I've checked with the wives (5 didn't respond) and it's a "yes" - so put me down for a place!
Damn - I might have given a clue as to my army choice and now EVERYONE will be working on strategies to lay our 'Enery low!!!!!!
Don VIIIth
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Re: Southampton 2014
Alasdair's the umpire - not a vet!khspedding wrote:Alasdair
Put me down please.
Keith
Don
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Re: Southampton 2014
I thought he was with the number of horses in his armies...
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Re: Southampton 2014
I'd like to enter too, please.
Martin
Martin
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Re: Southampton 2014
Was at the Southampton Club last night
so far upto 18 players, 6 from the Southampton Club plus , Keith, Paul Marsh, Tim, Brian, Bob, Ben, Don Avis , Martin, Dave Allen, Jerry Bray, Tom Elsworth, Paddy BRay
looking good, now for some interesting lists (anyone want to borrow an Irish army
cheers
Alasdair
so far upto 18 players, 6 from the Southampton Club plus , Keith, Paul Marsh, Tim, Brian, Bob, Ben, Don Avis , Martin, Dave Allen, Jerry Bray, Tom Elsworth, Paddy BRay
looking good, now for some interesting lists (anyone want to borrow an Irish army
cheers
Alasdair
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Re: Southampton 2014
Count me in please Alasdair.
Dave Allen
Dave Allen
Re: Southampton 2014
I'd like to enter too thanks.
Geoff Punshon
Geoff Punshon
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Re: Southampton 2014
Can I have one of the spaces too.
Thanks
Jim.
Thanks
Jim.
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Re: Southampton 2014
Please may I have a place as well
Stephen
Stephen
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Re: Southampton 2014
Upto 21 players, 6 from the Southampton Club plus , Keith, Paul Marsh, Tim, Brian, Bob, Ben, Don Avis , Martin, Dave Allen, Jerry Bray, Tom Elsworth, Paddy BRay, Geoff, Jim, Stephen
looking good, now for some interesting lists (anyone want to borrow an Irish army
cheers
Alasdair
looking good, now for some interesting lists (anyone want to borrow an Irish army
cheers
Alasdair
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Re: Southampton 2014
Sorry 22 did not include myself
Alasdair
Alasdair
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Re: Southampton 2014
Full 24 players, 6 from the Southampton Club plus , Keith, Paul Marsh, Tim, Brian, Bob, Ben, Don Avis , Martin, Dave Allen, Jerry Bray, Tom Elsworth, Paddy BRay, Geoff, Jim, Stephen, Andy Scott, Vespian
looking good, now for some interesting lists (anyone want to borrow an Irish army)
I''ll take reserves, and we'll see if we can get more tables in
Sorry don't know everybodies Slitherine names, Vespian who are you
cheers
Alasdair
looking good, now for some interesting lists (anyone want to borrow an Irish army)
I''ll take reserves, and we'll see if we can get more tables in
Sorry don't know everybodies Slitherine names, Vespian who are you
cheers
Alasdair