Assyrian Basing Question
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Assyrian Basing Question
Sorry if this topic is annoying, I know people often ask about how to base their miniatures for future armies, Assyrians amongst them, but I haven't yet found the info I was looking for here. So:
I ordered myself a bunch of Assyrians (late/neo) and would like to base them properly right from the beginning, even if the armybook will come out in 2009, earliest. Is this likely to be what they will be, or rather absurd:
Guard: 1/2 HF light spears with 1/2 MF bowmen in the 2nd rank
Normal army: 1/2 HF light spears (MF?) with 1/2 MF bowmen in the 2nd rank
Allies/Subjects: 1/2 MF light spears with 1/2 MF (LF?) bowmen in the 2nd rank
Slingers: LF?
Will the cavalry be mixed units of archers and spearmen, or seperate ones? If so, will the mounted archers be LH or cav?
It would be great if you could tell me if those basings would be correct. If you havent made up your mind about that future project, no problem, but any help is highly appreciated!
I ordered myself a bunch of Assyrians (late/neo) and would like to base them properly right from the beginning, even if the armybook will come out in 2009, earliest. Is this likely to be what they will be, or rather absurd:
Guard: 1/2 HF light spears with 1/2 MF bowmen in the 2nd rank
Normal army: 1/2 HF light spears (MF?) with 1/2 MF bowmen in the 2nd rank
Allies/Subjects: 1/2 MF light spears with 1/2 MF (LF?) bowmen in the 2nd rank
Slingers: LF?
Will the cavalry be mixed units of archers and spearmen, or seperate ones? If so, will the mounted archers be LH or cav?
It would be great if you could tell me if those basings would be correct. If you havent made up your mind about that future project, no problem, but any help is highly appreciated!
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Re: Assyrian Basing Question
Assuming you mean the reigns of Esarhaddon/Ashurbanibal.
Front rank HF if tower shields, MF if smaller round shields. Mostly Protected, but some Armoured HF.
Reserve Foot - Poor MF 1/2 LSp,swordsmen 1/2 Bow
Either 1/2 light spear, swordsmen, 1/2 bow, swordsmen or all Bow*,light spear,swordsmen
A few LH
All HF Light spear, swordsmen with optional 3rd rank of LF Bow.Shem wrote:Guard: 1/2 HF light spears with 1/2 MF bowmen in the 2nd rank
1/2 HF/MF light spear, swordsmen, 1/2 MF bowNormal army: 1/2 HF light spears (MF?) with 1/2 MF bowmen in the 2nd rank
Front rank HF if tower shields, MF if smaller round shields. Mostly Protected, but some Armoured HF.
Tribal levies - LF with bows, slings or javelinsAllies/Subjects: 1/2 MF light spears with 1/2 MF (LF?) bowmen in the 2nd rank
Slingers: LF?
Reserve Foot - Poor MF 1/2 LSp,swordsmen 1/2 Bow
Mostly cavalry.Will the cavalry be mixed units of archers and spearmen, or seperate ones? If so, will the mounted archers be LH or cav?
Either 1/2 light spear, swordsmen, 1/2 bow, swordsmen or all Bow*,light spear,swordsmen
A few LH
Thanks for the quick reply! Now I can base those bloodthirsty chaps without worrying.
Are the reserve bowmen LF or MF?
So guard units will be 6 bases big, right? I thought propably 4 like other elite units, but "3rd rank" implies 6 bases (or more...). Could you tell me why guard-bowmen are LF and Kissir-Sharuti MF? As an amateur and beginner on Assyrian military-history, that sounds strange to me.
Are the reserve bowmen LF or MF?
So guard units will be 6 bases big, right? I thought propably 4 like other elite units, but "3rd rank" implies 6 bases (or more...). Could you tell me why guard-bowmen are LF and Kissir-Sharuti MF? As an amateur and beginner on Assyrian military-history, that sounds strange to me.
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MFShem wrote:Are the reserve bowmen LF or MF?
I am not allowed to give everything away.So guard units will be 6 bases big, right?
Because according to the expert (Nigel Tallis, professional Assyriologist) they only had a few archers in the guard infantry.Could you tell me why guard-bowmen are LF and Kissir-Sharuti MF?
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No reason why the HF tower shield guys should be too scared of lancers.ethan wrote:In period I think the Assyrians are pretty tough...out of period? How do they deal with anything armed with a lance? much less knights...
In the impact phase they are on equal POAs to the lancers. In addition they have 50% more dice (probably at a reduced chance to hit). This makes them almost as good as Offensive or Defensive Spearmen against the knights in terms of chance to win the impact combat. Moreover, they are more likely than OSp/DSp to inflict a base loss on the knights.
In the melee they may be in a bit of trouble due to armour disadvantage, but weight of numbers may tell.
Of course, they may get lucky and disrupt the lancers from shooting before they charge.
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Assyrians - excellent news
Thanks Richard for the helpful Assyrian info.
I look forward to digging out my Late Assyrians to play again, as I never liked them much under DBM.
Need to find a bunch more Bw, though at least I have a few months to sort them out before the list arrives
John
I look forward to digging out my Late Assyrians to play again, as I never liked them much under DBM.
Need to find a bunch more Bw, though at least I have a few months to sort them out before the list arrives
John