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Re: Biblical: winners post your results here . . .

Post by sunnyboy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:37 pm

Division A

Sunnyboy (Phoenician 681-539 BC) beat hidde Urartian (681-585 BC) 41 - 9

After some initial manoeuvre fruitlessly seeking some perceived advantage the Phoenician advanced through the storm of Urartian arrows with only minimal disruption. As the opposing armies clashed large sections of the Urartian line crumbled. The brittle Urartian foot making the below average Phoenician spearmen look like supermen.

Thanks for the game Anders!

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by XLegione » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:52 pm

Division A

XLegione - Seleucid 166-125 BC defeated youngr - Roman 219-200 BC 53% - 18%

Ciao

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:59 pm

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Re: Classical Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by stockwellpete » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:23 pm

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Re: Biblical: winners post your results here . . .

Post by hidde » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 pm

Div A

hidde (Urartian) beat XLegione (Carthaginian) 40-9

All about terrain in this one.

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by pantherboy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:21 pm

Division A

pantherboy (Indians) beat NikiforosFokas (Jewish Revolt) 60-46

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by Geffalrus » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:10 pm

Division C

Geffalrus (Antigonids) defeats Sunnyboy (Jewish Revolt) 45-19 via an early rush and a lucky rally.

First to fight last season because we didn't know any better, this season we waited to face each other last because we knew it was gonna be rough. The Jewish Army is a scary list at the best of times, and I was not looking forward to dealing with Sunny's facility with medium foot in rough terrain. The field itself ended up being decently open with some large rough patches. The challenge as a Hellenistic army is balancing having enough units in total to match the sheer numbers of the Jewish list AND having something to deal with 10 or more archers AND having something sturdy enough to survive a frontal charge by Superior Impact Foot + General. Mass pike will most likely win the melee in the long run, but is expensive, completely useless in rough terrain, and loses Impact POA when taking loses from skirmishers. As such, I went with more skirmishers, all my light horse, and a large heavy horse contingent. A small, but elite force of pikes was accompanied by a collection of Thureos. Sunny, on the other hand, brought maximum zealots and just a ton of archers. Yikes.

At first, Sunny got the best of the shooting. I countered the only way I know how - with an all out cavalry charge. Light horse and heavies got good angles and pursuit rolls, resulting in a quick rout of a surprising number of archers. Overeager, some of the heavy cavalry wandered too close to the Zealot swarm and got dragged down or chased off the field. At the point, I realized that my cavalry was not in the healthiest of shape, my skirmishers were all scattered, and I didn't actually have a plan for dealing with 11 Zealots. Even worse, my infantry was split trying to score some quick points beating up some Irregular Foot, and some elite pikes and Thureos had to stand and receive Zealot charges with the promise of Zealot FLANK charges the following turn. It wasn't pretty. Sunny was catching up in score real fast. I made a second line of pikes and Thureos, said a few quick prayers, and prepared for a second helping of pain that the Zealots proceeded to do their best to deliver.

And then the match ended. Not because of any particular tactical brilliance on my part, but because I'd survived just long enough for my routed Veteran Pikes + General to rally. That plus the early lead I'd gained through my cavalry's brave charge was just enough to cross the 25% threshold. So that's it for me and Classical Division C this season. It was a pleasure to face familiar players like Morkin, Sunny, Karvon, and Lydianed again, as well as some new (to me) folks. And now, off to join devoncop's FoG: Empires multiplayer game..........

Final positions of the two armies.
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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by dkalenda » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:11 pm

Division A

dkalenda - Lysimachid beats pantherboy - Indian 61%-33%

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Re: Classical Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by dkalenda » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:12 pm

Division A

dkalenda - Lysimachid beats XLegione - Seleucid 46%-20%

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Re: Late Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by SawyerK » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:03 pm

In Division D SawyerK (Ptolemaic 55-30 BC) has issued a challenge to EOBrian2 (Kushan 130 BC to 478AD). PW sent by PM.

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Re: Early Middle Ages: winners post your results here

Post by Cunningcairn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:13 am

Div A

Cunningcairn - Viking 900-1049 AD (Irish ally) beat GDod - Ghaznavid 962-1187 AD (Turkish 600 -1036 allies) by 29% to 9%

GDod did the honourable thing and surrendered saving his troops for the opening of his fast food restaurant chain. Thanks for a good game where the dice favoured me.

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Re: Late Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by Bluefin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:32 am

Division C

Bluefin (Franks) challenge Gdod (Galatians)

pw - gdod

pm sent

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by ruskicanuk » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:12 am

Division A

ruskicanuk - Romano-British 407-599 AD defeats youngr - Ptolemaic 55-30 BC, 67 - 44, this was one of the bloodiest battles yet, both armies reduced to a pulp, gg

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Re: Classical Antiquity: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by harveylh » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:29 am

Division A

harveylh - Ptolemaic 166-56 BC challenges Triarii - Carthaginian, Hannibal in Africa 202 BC, password “classic", PM sent.

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Re: Early Middle Ages: winners post your results here

Post by IMC » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:28 am

Hi folks

Early Middle Ages Division B

(8) IMC - Viking (Ireland) 900-1049 AD (no allies) beat (5) SpeedyCM - Rus 960-1053 AD (Polish 966-1057 AD allies)

60% 57%

Very close and gripping encounter!

Thanks for the game

Ian

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Re: Early Middle Ages: arrange your matches here . . .

Post by NikiforosFokas » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:26 am

Div A
Games for CheAnn and Nosy_Rat are up. Pm sent.
For Byzantium!!

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Re: Poll on player army choices restriction

Post by paulmcneil » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:55 am

Personally I like the paired challenges we get in the slitherine tournament, perhaps you can pick any army but have to play a paired match with your opponent's army?
Paul McNeil

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by lydianed » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Division D

lydianed (Gepid) drew with MikeMarchant (Roman) 37:59.

This was nearly a win for Mike who has promised to write a battle report. If the game lasted another turn he'd have had a victory. One of the most enjoyable battles ever.

That's it for me in this division this season. Thanks to my opponents and hats off again to the unstoppable Gen. Shapur.

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Re: Late Antiquity: winners post your results here . . .

Post by MikeMarchant » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:01 pm

Once again the battle is shaped and dominated by the terrain and it’s all on the Roman left flank. First a forest and then well ahead of the Roman deployment a stream, over which lies a range of hills stretching up to the Gepid rear. Hills which are entirely covered with rough terrain.

None of this is suitable for legionaries and none of this is suitable for Gepids. The clear open terrain dominating the rest of the battlefield is too large and too open for Roman legionary cohorts to operate against a fast and fluid heavy cavalry army like the Gepids.

Instead of deploying in line, as would be normal, the Romans deployed in two columns. The left hand column containing the auxiliaries and the tiny Roman cavalry contingent marched around the forest over some rocky hills and up towards the deep stream and the rocky hills beyond. The right hand column, consisting of various flavours of legionary, marched through open ground skirting the right hand side of the forest also heading for the stream.

The Gepid force advanced at pace towards the Romans, led by a cloud of lights. The lights harried the legionary advance without retaliation and the lancers crossed the deep stream to engage, but the Gepid heavy infantry remained on the Gepid side of the stream.

The head of the legionary column hit the stream just in time to perform a right turn on the spot, leaving them in two lines facing the threatening cavalry. Wary of charging the front of the legionaries, the Gepid lancers hold back and fan out, probing deep towards the Roman rear, while their lights continue their unopposed barrage of the legionaries.

Meanwhile, behind them, the auxiliaries have slogged over hills, across the stream and are head up into the second row of hills, to form another line facing the right side of the battlefield. The Gepid heavy infantry formed up to oppose the auxiliaries with a line of their own, on the flat at the foot of the hills. The two cavalry alae stand guard at the furthest extent of this line.

By now, the lights have started to disrupt some of the legionary cohorts and the lancers have started to charge in. The Romans stood braced, holding the line, and although there are casualties on the Roman side, they ride out the storm.

After a few turns of this the legionaries switched to the offensive and advanced towards the lancers. It’s slow and it’s bloody, but eventually the legionaries sweep the lancers away and swing their line up towards the stream. A careful and well timed strike by the auxiliaries at the near end of the hill coincided with the legionaries starting to get their feet wet, and a very long and very slow slogging match began with the Gepid heavy foot.

One of the cavalry alae broke for the open at the other end of the hills and swept down to the rear of the Gepids and some of the Gepid heavy infantry had to break line to try to block them. Once the Gepid line was weakened more auxiliaries attacked down the hill.

Apart from a few cohorts, holding back the few remaining lancers on the Roman side of the stream, the rest of the legionary cohorts had crossed the stream, reformed a coherent line and were marching on the German rear, with auxiliaries pouring down from the hills opposite them. The Gepids are now surrounded and about to be slaughtered, but then the light goes out and there’s no-one qualified to change the bulb.

I realise I have focussed more on the Roman doings than the brilliance of the Gepid manoeuvres, but that’s because I was hiding under the desk with my fingers in my ears when the Gepids were doing their brilliant manoeuvres, and so I noticed them far less.


This was perhaps the most enjoyable battle I have yet played in FoG (either 1 or 2). It was an incredibly careful battle of manoeuvre and timing and one where I always felt that disaster was just one small mistake away. I always knew what it was I wanted to do, but I did not know whether I would be able to achieve it. Nerve racking throughout and a battle where I took heavy losses at the beginning (was well behind) while patiently waiting for the right moment to strike. I got that wrong, I think. I should have let my legionaries loose a turn earlier and should have let my auxiliaries loose a turn (or maybe two) earlier – those differences in timing probably led to the battle timing-out, but I’ll never know for sure – they might instead have resulted in disaster.

All the way through this was a battle of very fine margins and all the way through it was unclear how it would end up. That’s the best sort of battle.

Thanks for a really great game, lydianed – thoroughly enjoyable.


Best Wishes

Mike

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Re: Poll on player army choices restriction

Post by stockwellpete » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:02 pm

paulmcneil wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:55 am
Personally I like the paired challenges we get in the slitherine tournament, perhaps you can pick any army but have to play a paired match with your opponent's army?
It is a good idea in theory, but in practice it would mean that divisions would have to consist of just 6 players. At the moment each player plays 9 matches in a division; in a division of six players playing paired games, the match count for each player would be 10.

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