LORDS OF HISTORY (the ultimate edition)

[fogman]

Mont Gisard

Franks (fogman) 37/45 vs Ayybudids (ian) 52/50

I intend to start the new round this week.

[fogman]

I've been making scenarios of some ancient battles I did not choose to do the first time around and rewriting some other to the present standard. So from time to time, we'll have a round of ancient battles.


ROUND 33: HEGEMONIES

The decades following Sparta's victory in the Peloponnesian War were to see her hegemony challenged then brought down by Thebes. Theban hegemony however proved to be short-lived. Waiting in the north was Macedon whose eventual hegemony was to spell the end of Greek independence.

LEUCTRA 371 BC
https://www.militaryhistorywithfog.com/leuctra-371-bc

CHAERONEA 338 BC
https://www.militaryhistorywithfog.com/chaeronea-338-bc

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Challenges

LEUCTRA 371 BC

Spartan vs Theban
fogman vs mcfcivo
iandavidsmith vs Edmund
londo vs allendeuce
edmund vs londo
mcfcivo vs iandavidsmith
allendeuce vs fogman


CHAERONEA 338 BC

Greek vs Macedonians
fogman vs iandavidsmith
iandavidsmith vs allendeuce
londo vs fogman
edmund vs mcfcivo
mcfcivo vs londo
allendeuce vs edmund

first named player initiates challenge
no fog of war, no double moves

[fogman]

Challenges

Leuctra
vs mcfcivo
pw: mctheban

Chaeronea
vs iandavidsmith
pw: ianmac

[allendeuce]

Hello all!
Challenges up for;
fogman Leuctra...pw fogman

edmond Chaeronea...pw edmond

Good luck and have fun, guys!

[iandavidsmith]

Challenges posted

Spartan vs Theban
iandavidsmith vs Edmund
password is Edmund

Greek vs Macedonians
fogman vs iandavidsmith
password is allendeuce

Good Luck

[fogman]

result from two weeks ago:
Leuctra
Thebans (fogman) 61/72
Spartans (allendeuce) 52/48
Crazily, the whole Pelopponesian line surged forwards instead of backwards.

My windows laptop seems to have some sort of connectivity failure. I may have to buy a new one in order to play multiplayer.

[Edmund_Blackadder]

2 challenges & 2 Results

CHALLENGES
LEUCTRA versus Londo password LEUC

CHAERONEA versus mcfcivo password CHAE

RESULTS
LEUCTRA
Edmund (Thebans) defeats iandavidsmith (Spartans), Thebans 55/72, Spartans 48/48
Edmund 10.0 pts
iandavidsmith 7.6 pts
It turned into a messy battle where both sides scored alike, but the Thebans won on the higher base count. Thanks for the game Ian

CHAERONEA
Edmund (Macedonians) defeats allendeuce (Greeks), Greeks 85/83, Macedonians 60/68
Edmund 10.2 pts
allendeuce 8.8 pts
A very close battle, where the Macedonians looked set to win, despite heroic resistance from a particularly brave tactical marker, but then everything switched around with a big points swing on the last but one turn. Thanks for the game Jim and a medal for the marker man

[Edmund_Blackadder]

result from two weeks ago:
Leuctra
Thebans (fogman) 61/72
Spartans (allendeuce) 52/48
Crazily, the whole Pelopponesian line surged forwards instead of backwards.

My windows laptop seems to have some sort of connectivity failure. I may have to buy a new one in order to play multiplayer.

Sorry to hear about your laptop problem fogman. Hope you've been able to resolve it.

[fogman]

Back in business. Been doing some fine research on primary sources.

[iandavidsmith]

Result
CHAERONEA 338 BC
Greek vs Macedonians
fogman 84/83 vs iandavidsmith 66/68
iandavidsmith : 10.1 pta
fogman:9.7 pts
very close game

[iandavidsmith]

Result
CHAERONEA 338 BC
Greek vs Macedonians
fogman 84/83 vs iandavidsmith 66/68
iandavidsmith : 10.1 pts
fogman:9.7 pts
very close game

[mcfcivo]

Challenges up for:-

Ian, Leuctra PW - iand
Londo, Chaeronea PW - londo
Fogman, Leuctra PW - fogman (your challenge for me wasnt there when I checked, probs my fault for being so late in seeing it!)

Cheers,

Andy.

[fogman]

I gave the Chaeronea from Edmund to you to another player. I thought you were out since I saw you active in FoG 2. That's fine.

edit: it appears Edmund reposted that challenge.

[iandavidsmith]

Result
LEUCTRA 371 BC
Spartan vs Theban

iandavidsmith 65/72 defeats mcfcivo 48/48
iandavidsmith :10 pts
mcfcivo : 9 pts

Close game

[Londo]

Challenge posted ...

allendeuce - Leuctra - pw allen

[Edmund_Blackadder]

Result for CHAERONEA versus mcfcivo

CHAERONEA
Edmund (Greeks) defeats mcfcivo (Greeks), Greeks 66/83, Macedonians 74/68
Edmund 10.9 pts
mcfcivo 8.0 pts
Within the limited scope on an inevitable slugfest, the main tactical choice for the Greeks is the balance between reinforcing the battle line and running away. Hear they mainly opted for running away as quickly as possible.
The battle seemed very close for most of the game before Alexander's death, closely followed by Antipater's and then it turned rapidly with the Macedonians suddenly losing a lot of points, so I think the key difference was the dice.

[Londo]

Sorry to everyone I went AWOL for a long while! Here are a whole bunch of results I don't think I've posted. Although these are gone from the server now, I scribbled down the numbers after each game.

Mont Gisard

Londo (Ayyubids) 50/50 - Jim (Franks) 47/45 - DRAW!

Londo (Franks) 35/45 - Edmund (Ayyubids) 54/50

Legnano

Londo (Germans) 24/32 - Fogman (Lombards) 56/56

Londo (Lombards) 49/56 - Ian (Germans) 32/32

[Londo]

More results!

Chaeronea

Londo (Macedonians) 50/68 - Andy (Greeks) 83/83

Leuctra

Londo (Thebans) 59/72 - Edmund (Spartans) 52/48

I find the marker placement in Leuctra a bit odd. Fogman, I understand what you're doing with the Theban markers behind the Spartans - recreating the second line that the Spartans established after the collapse of their main phalanx fronted by the Spartiates.

But the problem is that the Spartans have to start withdrawing troops to get these markers from the beginning of the scenario. It's as if they know from the outset that their phalanx is doomed, and they will have to set up a second line. But they wouldn't have known that, would they?

In this case, I was overlapping the edges of the Spartan phalanx and pressing on its flanks. Edmund's necessary withdrawal of troops to take markers left him with insufficient to protect the flanks of the Spartiates. (It also helped that my markers proved stoic and didn't fall easily!)

I now have only one game outstanding - Leuctra with Jim. Looking forward to the new round!

[fogman]

Leuctra: the Spartans can't withdraw right away since they are entangled with some 'reaction time' markers. And I added a couple of Theban cavalry to make the process interesting.

I haven't heard from allendeuce. But I have lined up fedem as new player. I'll wait a few days.

[fogman]

ROUND 34: CLASH OF FAITHS

The later 12th and earlier 13th centuries was a period of intense warfare between Christians and Muslims, from the Middle East to Spain.

ARSUF 1191 AD
https://www.militaryhistorywithfog.com/arsuf-1191-ad

ALARCOS 1195 AD
https://www.militaryhistorywithfog.com/alarcos-1195-ad

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CHALLENGES:

ARSUF

AYYUBIDS vs FRANKS
Fogman vs Londo
Iandavidsmith vs Fedem
Londo vs Mcfcivo
Edmund vs Iandavidsmith
Mcfcivo vs Edmund
Fedem vs Fogman

ALARCOS

CASTILIANS vs ALMOHADS
Fogman vs Mcfcivo
Iandavidsmith vs Londo
Londo vs Fedem
Edmund vs Fogman
Mcfcivo vs Iandavidsmith
Fedem vs Edmund

First named player (side 2) initiates challenge.
NO FOG OF WAR, NO DOUBLE MOVES.