Attack! 2022
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Attack! 2022
The Devizes & District Wargames Group's website states that their much-loved show will be back hopefully over the weekend of 16th-17th July 2022.
I have been in touch with Phil Mackie to say that I am happy to organise and run a FOG R competition at Attack! 2022. Please put the dates in your calendar so that we have a good turnout.
Below is the draft theme and would welcome comments on the proposal: -
Attack! 2022
16/17 July
The Battle of Vienna 1683.
Rules: - FOGR with all amendments publish at that time plus those shown below.
Scale: - 15mm
Points: - 820 points plus the value of their cheapest base cost i.e. if the cheapest points for a base are 5 points then the player can have up to 825 points in their army.
Format – Singles competition with 4 x 3hour 15minute games
Venue: Devizes School, The Green, Devizes, Wiltshire SN10 3AG
Armies: -
Later Polish & Lithuanian – Duty and Glory
Later Ottoman Turkish – Clash of Empires
Hungarian Kuruc Rebellion – Duty and Glory
Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) – Duty and Glory
Later German States (only Bavaria, Saxony, Swabia, Franconia) – Duty and Glory
Tatar – Clash of Empires
Wallachian/Moldavian - Clash of Empires
The following list modifications/restrictions and additional rules will apply:
Foot
1) The army cannot include more than 5 units with any pike capability.
2) Dragoons when making any move including an evade starting or ending within 6MU of the enemy, may make a full dragoon mounted move if they pass a CMT.
.3) If they make a move which would be longer than that allowed to dragoons on foot they may shoot but as Carbines (range and effect) not Muskets as they are shooting from horseback, or have dismounted so quickly that they cannot shoot properly as a unit.
4) Dragoons may use Bayonet if the infantry in their army can at the relevant cost per base.
Mounted Troops
5) The army must include at least 16 bases of mounted battle troops.
6) No more than half of the mounted battle troops in the army can be Superior or Elite.
7) Armies with insufficient Superior mounted battle troops in their army list can upgrade whichever type of Average mounted battle troops in their list is most expensive in points to Superior up to the above limit.
Cavalry if they pass a CMT, can either move 2MU and turn 180, or turn 180 and move 2MU, as well as turn 180, move 2MU and turn 180.
Artillery
Any unlimbered heavy or medium artillery must be in the first BG's to be deployed
Fee: TBA
Closing date for entries will be Friday 17th June 2022 – this might be extended by a week but down to the Devizes & District Wargames Group
List checker: – TBC- List should be submitted no later than Saturday 2th July 2022 to allow time for checking.
Additional information; -
All the competition boards have been painted mottled greens and browns. If you want to bring a mat or cloth is it up to you
Tournament Schedule:
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games begin”)
Round 1: 9.15 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch: 12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.30 pm to 4.45 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.15 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.15 pm to 1.15 pm
Round 4: 1.15 pm to 4.30 pm
Prizegiving: As soon as we can work it out!
Bob
I have been in touch with Phil Mackie to say that I am happy to organise and run a FOG R competition at Attack! 2022. Please put the dates in your calendar so that we have a good turnout.
Below is the draft theme and would welcome comments on the proposal: -
Attack! 2022
16/17 July
The Battle of Vienna 1683.
Rules: - FOGR with all amendments publish at that time plus those shown below.
Scale: - 15mm
Points: - 820 points plus the value of their cheapest base cost i.e. if the cheapest points for a base are 5 points then the player can have up to 825 points in their army.
Format – Singles competition with 4 x 3hour 15minute games
Venue: Devizes School, The Green, Devizes, Wiltshire SN10 3AG
Armies: -
Later Polish & Lithuanian – Duty and Glory
Later Ottoman Turkish – Clash of Empires
Hungarian Kuruc Rebellion – Duty and Glory
Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) – Duty and Glory
Later German States (only Bavaria, Saxony, Swabia, Franconia) – Duty and Glory
Tatar – Clash of Empires
Wallachian/Moldavian - Clash of Empires
The following list modifications/restrictions and additional rules will apply:
Foot
1) The army cannot include more than 5 units with any pike capability.
2) Dragoons when making any move including an evade starting or ending within 6MU of the enemy, may make a full dragoon mounted move if they pass a CMT.
.3) If they make a move which would be longer than that allowed to dragoons on foot they may shoot but as Carbines (range and effect) not Muskets as they are shooting from horseback, or have dismounted so quickly that they cannot shoot properly as a unit.
4) Dragoons may use Bayonet if the infantry in their army can at the relevant cost per base.
Mounted Troops
5) The army must include at least 16 bases of mounted battle troops.
6) No more than half of the mounted battle troops in the army can be Superior or Elite.
7) Armies with insufficient Superior mounted battle troops in their army list can upgrade whichever type of Average mounted battle troops in their list is most expensive in points to Superior up to the above limit.
Cavalry if they pass a CMT, can either move 2MU and turn 180, or turn 180 and move 2MU, as well as turn 180, move 2MU and turn 180.
Artillery
Any unlimbered heavy or medium artillery must be in the first BG's to be deployed
Fee: TBA
Closing date for entries will be Friday 17th June 2022 – this might be extended by a week but down to the Devizes & District Wargames Group
List checker: – TBC- List should be submitted no later than Saturday 2th July 2022 to allow time for checking.
Additional information; -
All the competition boards have been painted mottled greens and browns. If you want to bring a mat or cloth is it up to you
Tournament Schedule:
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games begin”)
Round 1: 9.15 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch: 12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.30 pm to 4.45 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.15 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.15 pm to 1.15 pm
Round 4: 1.15 pm to 4.30 pm
Prizegiving: As soon as we can work it out!
Bob
Last edited by viking123 on Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:10 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Re: Attack! 2022
Bob
Good news Attack is on the calendar for 2022!
Can you clarify these dates please - as they all look wrong!
Closing date for entries will be Friday 26th June 2021 – this might be extended by a week but down to the Devizes & District Wargames Group
List checker: – TBC- List should be submitted no later than Saturday 4th July 2020 to allow time for checking.
Good news Attack is on the calendar for 2022!
Can you clarify these dates please - as they all look wrong!
Closing date for entries will be Friday 26th June 2021 – this might be extended by a week but down to the Devizes & District Wargames Group
List checker: – TBC- List should be submitted no later than Saturday 4th July 2020 to allow time for checking.
Re: Attack! 2022
David,
I have updated the dates but these may still be changed depending on circumstances.
I had originally drafted this two years ago and missed the dates.
I hope the theme will be of interest as it allows players to dig out the Polish winged Hussars which rarely get on the table.
Bob
I have updated the dates but these may still be changed depending on circumstances.
I had originally drafted this two years ago and missed the dates.
I hope the theme will be of interest as it allows players to dig out the Polish winged Hussars which rarely get on the table.
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
Thanks for the amendment of the 2 deadline dates! I am looking forward to potentially getting my Poles out for this - with it being an 820 point event, there is a better chance of a balanced force once you've paid for the compulsory Hussars (@ c.20 points a base) that makes them a bit expensive in a 650 point army! David (B)
Re: Attack! 2022
Bob,
please remind me how we enter for this. Thanks
Ray
please remind me how we enter for this. Thanks
Ray
Re: Attack! 2022
Glad this event is back on for 2022. Looking forward to this theme! When/where can we book tickets (as nothing showing on their website @ http://www.ddwg.org.uk/) ?
David (B)
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Re: Attack! 2022
As of today DDWG's website still says that they are hoping to run the show, and so the date remains a proposed date for Attack in 2022.
We hope to be back in 2022 over the weeend of July 16/17 subject to confirmation. http://www.ddwg.org.uk/
Despite things generally getting better, there are still a lot of challenges around committing to run shows right now - if Salute! has decided to miss a year, that shows how tough it is out there - so best to bear with the DDWG guys a little longer I feel
We hope to be back in 2022 over the weeend of July 16/17 subject to confirmation. http://www.ddwg.org.uk/
Despite things generally getting better, there are still a lot of challenges around committing to run shows right now - if Salute! has decided to miss a year, that shows how tough it is out there - so best to bear with the DDWG guys a little longer I feel
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Re: Attack! 2022
I can confirm that there is a FOG R competition at Attack! 2022. Details are slightly different from those originally posted.
Attack! 2022
16th/17th July
The Battle of Vienna 1683.
Rules: - FOGR with all amendments publish at that time plus those shown below.
Scale: - 15mm
Points: - 820 points plus the value of the cheapest base cost i.e. if the cheapest points for a base are 5 points then the player can have up to 825 points in their army.
Format – Singles competition with 4 x 3 hour 15 minute games
Venue: Devizes School, The Green, Devizes, Wiltshire SN10 3AG
Armies: -
Later Polish & Lithuanian – Duty and Glory
Later Ottoman Turkish – Clash of Empires
Hungarian Kuruc Rebellion – Duty and Glory
Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) – Duty and Glory
Later German States (only Bavaria, Saxony, Swabia, Franconia) – Duty and Glory
Tatar – Clash of Empires
Wallachian/Moldavian - Clash of Empires
The following list modifications/restrictions and additional rules will apply:
Foot.
1) When making any move including an evade starting or ending within 6MU of the enemy, they may make a full dragoon mounted move if they pass a CMT.
2) If they make a move which would be longer than that allowed to dragoons on foot they may shoot but as Carbines (range and effect) not Muskets as they are shooting from horseback, or have dismounted so quickly that they cannot shoot properly as a unit.
3) Dragoons may use Bayonet if the infantry in their army can at the relevant cost per base.
Mounted Troops
4) The army must include at least 12 bases of mounted battle troops.
5) Cavalry if they pass a CMT, can either move 2MU and turn 180, or turn 180 and move 2MU, as well as turn 180, move 2MU and turn 180.
Artillery
Any unlimbered heavy or medium artillery must be in the first BG's to be deployed
Fee: £25
Closing date for entries will be Friday 24th June 2022 – this might be extended by a week but down to the Devizes & District Wargames Group
List checker: – Ben Jones (ben@benedictjones.plus.com) - List should be submitted no later than Saturday 2th July 2022 to allow time for checking.
Additional information; -
All the competition boards have been painted mottled greens and browns. If you want to bring a mat or cloth is it up to you
Tournament Schedule:
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games begin”)
Round 1: 9.15 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch: 12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.30 pm to 4.45 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.15 pm (n.b..earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.15 pm to 1.00 pm
Round 4: 1.00 pm to 4.15 pm
Prize giving: As soon as we can work it out but before 4:30 pm
Tickets are available from Eventbrite and the link is: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/attack-2 ... 3092707987
Attack! 2022
16th/17th July
The Battle of Vienna 1683.
Rules: - FOGR with all amendments publish at that time plus those shown below.
Scale: - 15mm
Points: - 820 points plus the value of the cheapest base cost i.e. if the cheapest points for a base are 5 points then the player can have up to 825 points in their army.
Format – Singles competition with 4 x 3 hour 15 minute games
Venue: Devizes School, The Green, Devizes, Wiltshire SN10 3AG
Armies: -
Later Polish & Lithuanian – Duty and Glory
Later Ottoman Turkish – Clash of Empires
Hungarian Kuruc Rebellion – Duty and Glory
Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) – Duty and Glory
Later German States (only Bavaria, Saxony, Swabia, Franconia) – Duty and Glory
Tatar – Clash of Empires
Wallachian/Moldavian - Clash of Empires
The following list modifications/restrictions and additional rules will apply:
Foot.
1) When making any move including an evade starting or ending within 6MU of the enemy, they may make a full dragoon mounted move if they pass a CMT.
2) If they make a move which would be longer than that allowed to dragoons on foot they may shoot but as Carbines (range and effect) not Muskets as they are shooting from horseback, or have dismounted so quickly that they cannot shoot properly as a unit.
3) Dragoons may use Bayonet if the infantry in their army can at the relevant cost per base.
Mounted Troops
4) The army must include at least 12 bases of mounted battle troops.
5) Cavalry if they pass a CMT, can either move 2MU and turn 180, or turn 180 and move 2MU, as well as turn 180, move 2MU and turn 180.
Artillery
Any unlimbered heavy or medium artillery must be in the first BG's to be deployed
Fee: £25
Closing date for entries will be Friday 24th June 2022 – this might be extended by a week but down to the Devizes & District Wargames Group
List checker: – Ben Jones (ben@benedictjones.plus.com) - List should be submitted no later than Saturday 2th July 2022 to allow time for checking.
Additional information; -
All the competition boards have been painted mottled greens and browns. If you want to bring a mat or cloth is it up to you
Tournament Schedule:
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games begin”)
Round 1: 9.15 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch: 12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.30 pm to 4.45 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.15 pm (n.b..earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.15 pm to 1.00 pm
Round 4: 1.00 pm to 4.15 pm
Prize giving: As soon as we can work it out but before 4:30 pm
Tickets are available from Eventbrite and the link is: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/attack-2 ... 3092707987
Last edited by viking123 on Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Attack! 2022
The DDWG has decided that any competition that does not have booked players for half the table allocation by 1st June will not run and table space will be reallocated to the other rule sets. We have 8 tables (16 places) so if you want a FOG R competition you need to book early or it is lost.
Bob
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
Hope not! Do you know how many we have got signed up? David (B)
Re: Attack! 2022
Hi Bob
Any update on if we have enough entries for FOG-R to go ahead at Devizes?
thanks
David (B)
Any update on if we have enough entries for FOG-R to go ahead at Devizes?
thanks
David (B)
Re: Attack! 2022
We have 8 players so that should be alright.
If ReG does not run we may get another player. There is on player I want to chase who indicated they may come but have not yet entered.
Bob
If ReG does not run we may get another player. There is on player I want to chase who indicated they may come but have not yet entered.
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
We are now at 9 players and there is still the chance of another player if ReG does not run.
Bob
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
The current 9 players are: -
David Burrows
Ray Boyles
Dene Green
Paddy Bray
Andy Kitcher
Brendan Morrissey
Chris Beesley
Bob Medcraft
Lynnette Maxim
At the moment 4 are trying to relief Vienna and 3 are besieging it.
Bob
David Burrows
Ray Boyles
Dene Green
Paddy Bray
Andy Kitcher
Brendan Morrissey
Chris Beesley
Bob Medcraft
Lynnette Maxim
At the moment 4 are trying to relief Vienna and 3 are besieging it.
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
Hi Bob
Thanks for the update; in which case I will stick with my original Army choice.
Is the list submission deadline date still 4th July? And to who should the list be sent?
Many thanks
David (B)
Thanks for the update; in which case I will stick with my original Army choice.
Is the list submission deadline date still 4th July? And to who should the list be sent?
Many thanks
David (B)
Re: Attack! 2022
Following discussions at the Oxford one day ECW competition I have modified the special rules relating to mounted.
Paragraphs 5 and 6 have been deleted which restricted Superior and Elite mounted to 50% of the total number of mounted BG's. This would create problems for Polish forces.
Bob
Paragraphs 5 and 6 have been deleted which restricted Superior and Elite mounted to 50% of the total number of mounted BG's. This would create problems for Polish forces.
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
We have 9 players.
There is room for more players.Armies are available.
Currently we have 4 armies besieging Vienna and 3 trying to relief it. Still waiting to know what 2 players are going to take.
Bob
There is room for more players.Armies are available.
Currently we have 4 armies besieging Vienna and 3 trying to relief it. Still waiting to know what 2 players are going to take.
Bob
Re: Attack! 2022
Looking forward to getting back to Attack! @ Devizes this weekend! Looks like it will be an interesting set of match-ups!
Re: Attack! 2022
Following the battles over the last weekend the forces trying to relief Vienna have been soundly defeated. Vienna has fallen and the Ottoman's will continue their expansion towards Prague and Bavaria.
Attack! 2022
Place Player No Player Name Army Opponent Score Total Score
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4
1 4 Paddy Bray Tatar 2 1 3 6 5 19 12 25 61
2 3 Dene Green Hungarian Kurac 7 2 4 8 22 21 8 7 58
3 8 Lynnette Maxim Hungarian Kurac 1 6 2 4 9 11 23 13 56
4 7 Bob Medcraft Later Ottoman Turkish 3 5 6 1 3 17 13 13 46
5 5 Andy Kitcher Later Ottoman Turkish 6 7 1 2 7 3 10 20 40
6 6 Chris Beesley Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) 5 8 7 4 13 9 7 0 29
6 1 David Burrows Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) 8 4 5 7 11 1 10 7 29
8 2 Ray Boyles Later Polish and Lithuanians 4 3 8 5 15 4 2 5 26
Congratulations to Paddy and Dene.
Attack! 2022
Place Player No Player Name Army Opponent Score Total Score
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4
1 4 Paddy Bray Tatar 2 1 3 6 5 19 12 25 61
2 3 Dene Green Hungarian Kurac 7 2 4 8 22 21 8 7 58
3 8 Lynnette Maxim Hungarian Kurac 1 6 2 4 9 11 23 13 56
4 7 Bob Medcraft Later Ottoman Turkish 3 5 6 1 3 17 13 13 46
5 5 Andy Kitcher Later Ottoman Turkish 6 7 1 2 7 3 10 20 40
6 6 Chris Beesley Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) 5 8 7 4 13 9 7 0 29
6 1 David Burrows Habsburg Austrian Imperial (Eastern) 8 4 5 7 11 1 10 7 29
8 2 Ray Boyles Later Polish and Lithuanians 4 3 8 5 15 4 2 5 26
Congratulations to Paddy and Dene.
Last edited by viking123 on Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Attack! 2022
Thanks to Bob for organising and my fellow competitors for a fun weekend, despite the heat!
David (B)
David (B)