A Game of Thrones Revamped(Current Version 1.5 Dec. 26th)

[SmickeyMcgee]

This is what i'm working on right now. Got some giants, thenns and chariots for wildlings and some xbow armed builders and stewards for the night's watch. Next im gonna do a placeholder for the Dothraki. Then finally gonna go over the points pda from snugglebunnies and fix the cost balance.

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[SnuggleBunnies]

Looks great! When you've recosted the units I'd be happy to give it a lookover just to double check before a more public release.

[SonofDimir1]

I love how it looks and I’ll give it an install tonight! I’ve been looking forward to a mod like this ever since FoG2:Med came out.

If you don’t mind, I would like to try to setup a custom campaign or something and record some videos to upload to YouTube? I can definitely post link this page and shout out your mod, and I feel like any strategy and ASoIaF fan would absolutely love to try it!

Cheers!

[SmickeyMcgee]

I love how it looks and I’ll give it an install tonight! I’ve been looking forward to a mod like this ever since FoG2:Med came out.

If you don’t mind, I would like to try to setup a custom campaign or something and record some videos to upload to YouTube? I can definitely post link this page and shout out your mod, and I feel like any strategy and ASoIaF fan would absolutely love to try it!

Cheers!

Some custom campaign vids showing off the mod sound great.

[Horde]

I´m really glad you continued! I´m going to try the new version.

The inclusion of Essos armies is awesome. Some things I have seen:

-I see that you included the pike capability to westerosi well, pikemen. If you remember, in the other thread I defended that there should be pikes as they are described in the books, but I feel that deep offensive spear is more fitting to the descriptions that actual pikes.

-I think that perhaps the eastern cities should have their average cavalry as with lancer capability. Free Companies are now the most frequent and only have light spear, but companies like the Second Sons or the Stormcrows seem to be heavy cavalry and willing to engage in charge. Let´s see the Windblown, in a Dance of Dragons. They seem to have heavy armor:

""Aye, ser." Greenguts's mail was old and heavy, patched and patched again, much worn. The same was true of his helm, his gorget, greaves, and gauntlets, and the rest of his mismatched plate. Frog's kit was only slightly better, and Ser Gerris's was notably worse. Company steel, the armorer had called it." The captain rides a "stallion", a "huge grey war-horse".

They engage in hand to hand combat and seem well versed in charge tactics (even in this description are attacking routing infantry, and previously in the battle charged in the flanks):

"Hard by the big man's hip he rode, slashing right and left as their wedge went through the Unsullied like a spearpoint. When they burst through on the other side, the Tattered Prince had wheeled them round and led them through again. "

[SmickeyMcgee]

I´m really glad you continued! I´m going to try the new version.

The inclusion of Essos armies is awesome. Some things I have seen:

-I see that you included the pike capability to westerosi well, pikemen. If you remember, in the other thread I defended that there should be pikes as they are described in the books, but I feel that deep offensive spear is more fitting to the descriptions that actual pikes.

-I think that perhaps the eastern cities should have their average cavalry as with lancer capability. Free Companies are now the most frequent and only have light spear, but companies like the Second Sons or the Stormcrows seem to be heavy cavalry and willing to engage in charge. Let´s see the Windblown, in a Dance of Dragons. They seem to have heavy armor:

""Aye, ser." Greenguts's mail was old and heavy, patched and patched again, much worn. The same was true of his helm, his gorget, greaves, and gauntlets, and the rest of his mismatched plate. Frog's kit was only slightly better, and Ser Gerris's was notably worse. Company steel, the armorer had called it." The captain rides a "stallion", a "huge grey war-horse".

They engage in hand to hand combat and seem well versed in charge tactics (even in this description are attacking routing infantry, and previously in the battle charged in the flanks):

"Hard by the big man's hip he rode, slashing right and left as their wedge went through the Unsullied like a spearpoint. When they burst through on the other side, the Tattered Prince had wheeled them round and led them through again. "

I like the pikes for pikemen, however if you really want Off spear it's a simple edit. In the squads.csv just ctrl F to find the various pikemen units and edit column 49(pike) to 0 and change column 51(offspear) to 100.
For the Free Companies i'll add a Free Company Men-at-Arms unit that will represent the heavy cavalry in the Free Companies. So they'll have the Westerosi style knightly lancers supported by more Essos flavored average light spear cavalry.

[Horde]

Thanks for the suggestion! It seems that, stupidly, I thought this was a continuation of a previous mod that, as I have realized, was made by other user. I had contributed with some suggestions and quotes from the books in that one and when I saw this one I put my last message as a continuation of that. Sorry. Excelent mod in any case!

[alflynn]

Is it possible to have a Multiplayer battle with the mod?

[SmickeyMcgee]

Is it possible to have a Multiplayer battle with the mod?

I went in to multiplayer to see and it doesn't look like it. The only options I could choose were the vanilla battles and skirmish lists.

[SnuggleBunnies]

Looked over 1.4 for points values, here are the corrections I think are needed based on the most current chart:

Giants 90->42
Superior Protected HF: 7
HW: 1.5
Impact Foot: .5
Maneuverable HF: 6
(9x4)+6 = 42
So... not sure why these are priced at 90? Am I missing a detail?

Thenn Shieldwall 57->63
Superior Some Armor HF: 9
Offensive Spearmen: 1.5
10.5X6 = 63

Ironborn Levy Spearmen 32->24
Raw Protected HF: 3
Defensive Spearmen: 1
4x6 = 24

Night's Watch Rangers 56->57
Above Average Protected Foot: 5.5
Longbow: 2.5
Impact Foot: .5
Swordsmen: 1
9.5x6 = 57

Northern Clansmen 45->51
Unprotected Superior MF with HW: 7
HW: 1.5
8.5x6 = 51

Nights Watch Spearmen 36->42
Above Average Protected HF: 6
Defensive Spearmen: 1
7x6 = 42

Nights Watch Crossbowmen 39->33
Unprotected Foot: 4
50% Swordsmen: .5
Crossbow: 1
5.5x6 = 33
to be continued

[SnuggleBunnies]

Stark Bannermen 72->74
Superior Heavily Armored Knights: 15.5
Swordsmen: 1
Knightly Lancers: 2
18.5x4 = 74

Stark Men-at-Arms 60->61
Above Average Heavily Armored Knights: 12.25
Swordsmen: 1
Knightly Lancers: 2
15.25x4 = 61

Hedge Knights 44->48
Average Armored Knights: 9
Swordsmen: 1
Knightly Lancers: 2
12x4 = 48

Dismounted Stark Men-at-Arms 66->69
Above Average Heavily Armored HF: 10
HW: 1.5
11.5x6 = 69

Pikemen, if made into full sized pike units should be 68pts:
Average Protected HF: 5
Pikemen: 1
6x12 = 72
"Discount for non-keil pike units Average or better 4, Raw 3"
72-4 = 68

Raw Spearmen (Defensive) 24->23
Lightly Protected Raw HF: 2.75
Defensive Spearmen: 1
3.75x6 = 22.5, rounded up to 23

Longbowmen 45->48
Average Protected Foot: 5
50% Swordsmen: .5
Longbowmen: 2.5
8x6 = 48

Sellsword Longbowmen 45->48
Average Protected Foot: 5
50% Swordsmen: .5
Longbowmen: 2.5
8x6 = 48

Sellsword Crossbowmen 39->33
Average Unprotected Foot: 4
50% Swordsmen: .5
Crossbow: 1
5.5x6 = 33

Archers 30->36
Average Unprotected Foot: 4
Bow: 2
6x6 = 36

Sellsword Light Longbowmen 45->39
Average Unprotected Foot: 4
50% Swordsmen: .5
Longbowmen (LF): 2
6.5x6 = 39

Light Longbowmen 45->39
Average Unprotected Foot: 4
50% Swordsmen: .5
Longbowmen (LF): 2
6.5x6 = 39

Sellsword Light Crossbowmen 39->33
Average Unprotected Foot: 4
50% Swordsmen: .5
Crossbow: 1
5.5x6 = 33


onward...

[SnuggleBunnies]

Targaryen Bannermen 72->74 as above
Targaryen Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Targaryen Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Sellsword Polearmsmen 36->33
Below Average Foot: 4
HW: 1.5
5.5x6 = 33

Tully Bannermen 72->74 as above
Tully Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Tully Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Lannister Bannermen 72->74 as above
Lannister Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Lannister Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Tyrell Bannermen 72->74 as above
Marcher Bannermen 72->74 as above
Tyrell Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Tyrell Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Baratheon Bannermen 72->74 as above
Baratheon Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Baratheon Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Martell Bannermen 72->74 as above

Freeriders 38->35
Average Some Armor Cavalry: 6.75
Swordsmen: 1
Lancers: 1
8.75x4 = 35

Dornish Veteran Spearmen 51->57
HF with Off Spear: 8
Offensive Spear: 1.5
9.5x6 = 57

Arryn Bannermen 72->74 as above
Arryn Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Arryn Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

King's Landing Bannermen 72->74 as above
King's Landing Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted King's Landing Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Bannermen 72->74 as above
Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Blackfyre Bannermen 72->74 as above
Blackfyre Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Blackfyre Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Bolton Bannermen 72->74 as above
Bolton Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Bolton Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Frey Bannermen 72->74 as above
Frey Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Frey Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Dragonstone Bannermen 72->74 as above
Dragonstone Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Dragonstone Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

on to Essos next...

[SnuggleBunnies]

Golden Company Knights 72->74 as above
Golden Company Men-at-Arms 60->61 as above
Dismounted Golden Company Men-at-Arms 66->69 as above

Golden Company Longbowmen 50->51
Average Protected Foot: 5
Swordsmen: 1
Longbowmen: 2.5
8.5x6 = 51

Golden Company Crossbowmen 46->42
Average Protected Foot: 5
Swordsmen: 1
Crossbow: 1
7x6 = 42

Golden Company Light Longbowmen 50->42
Unprotected Foot: 4
Swordsmen: 1
Longbow (LF): 2
7x6 = 42

Golden Company Light Crossbowmen 46->36
Unprotected Foot: 4
Swordsmen: 1
Crossbow: 1
6x6 = 36

Free Company Cavalry 38->35
Average Some Armor LS Cavalry: 6.75
Light Spear Non Light Cavalry: 1
Swordsmen: 1
8.75x4 = 35

Free City Militia 24->34
Below Average Lightly Protected HF: 3.625
Swordsmen: 1
4.625x6 = 27.75
Maneuverable HF: 6
27.75 + 6 = 33.75 rounded up to 34. To make this unit cheaper you'd want to make it Unmaneuverable.

Free Company Bowmen 38->45
Average Protected Foot: 5
50% Swordsmen: .5
Bow: 2
7.5x6 = 45

Free Company Light Bowmen 38->39
Average Protected Foot: 5
50% Swordsmen: .5
Bow (LF): 1
6.5x6 = 39

Unsullied Spearmen 75->81
Elite Some Armor HF: 11
Offensive Spear: 1.5
12.5x6 = 75
Maneuverable HF: +6
75+6 = 81

Tiger Cloaks 48->45
Above Average Protected Foot: 6
Offensive Spear: 1.5
7.5x6 = 45

Volantene Levies 24->28
Below Average Lightly Protected Foot: 3.625
Swordsmen: 1
4.625x6 = 27.75 rounded up to 28

Volantene Archers 30->36
Average Unprotected Foot: 4
Bow: 2
6x6 = 36

Dothraki Screamers 56->72
Elite Protected Cavalry: 15 (elite armored knights are 18, elite protected lancers are 14, these Dothraki are Cavalry and thus maneuverable and more disciplined than knights)
Swordsmen: 1
Knightly Lancers: 2
18x4 = 72

Dothraki Riders 40->36
Unprotected Superior Light Horse: 7
Javelins: 1
Swordsmen: 1
9x4 = 36

And done! I may have missed something, but I think it is a fairly complete pass over.

[SnuggleBunnies]

Attached is a Squads file with the revised costs as above, if you are interested.

Changes made:
Pricing based on most recent points chart
Pikemen are 12 bases and priced accordingly
Rangers converted from Warriors to Medium Foot, so they can be Maneuverable and not pursue, priced accordingly.

Edit: see updated post below

[Paul59]

Is it possible to have a Multiplayer battle with the mod?

I went in to multiplayer to see and it doesn't look like it. The only options I could choose were the vanilla battles and skirmish lists.

You just need to copy and paste the Game of Thrones mod into your

Documents/My Games/FieldOfGloryMedieval/MULTIPLAYER folder.

Obviously, your opponent would need to do the same.

[SmickeyMcgee]

Attached is a Squads file with the revised costs as above, if you are interested.

Squads.rar

Changes made:
Pricing based on most recent points chart
Pikemen are 12 bases and priced accordingly
Rangers converted from Warriors to Medium Foot, so they can be Maneuverable and not pursue, priced accordingly.

Looks good, i've downloaded and replaced the squads file and will include it in next update.

[SnuggleBunnies]

Attached is a Squads file with the revised costs as above, if you are interested.

Squads.rar

Changes made:
Pricing based on most recent points chart
Pikemen are 12 bases and priced accordingly
Rangers converted from Warriors to Medium Foot, so they can be Maneuverable and not pursue, priced accordingly.

Looks good, i've downloaded and replaced the squads file and will include it in next update.

One minor thing - Dornish Superior foot still have a description as veteran Muslim spearmen

[SnuggleBunnies]

Looks good, i've downloaded and replaced the squads file and will include it in next update.

Please use the updated file below - Geffalrus pointed out some archer recostings that I'd missed.

Squads10.4.22update.rar

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[thechoort]

The mod is really impressive! Is it custom battle only or can I use the GoT army lists for sandbox campaigns?

[SmickeyMcgee]

The mod is really impressive! Is it custom battle only or can I use the GoT army lists for sandbox campaigns?

Just custom battles for now.