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New units for PC2

Post by asuser »

Dear developers,
I wanted to make a request related to the unit pool:

1. When will the unit pool be increased again, since there weren't that many new units in DLC 1943?
New unit models that differ significantly from the previous units would be very desirable:

• Bicycle troops (infantry with bicycles for transport)
• Mortar troops (infantry with grenade launcher, artillery usage)
• Artillery tractor vehicles (SU: S-65, FR: Laffly/Somua)
• Single person motorcycle (IT: Moto Guzzi)
• Command ships (US: USS Ancon)
• Troop carrier ships
• Transport ships (US: Liberty class)
• Escort carrier ships

2. Some of the modders would be quite capable of making new unit models and bringing them into the game. The big question here is how will a new 3D model be integrated into the game? This is about the right technique to realize movement and the sound, how does it link to a skin color and the insignia? It would be nice if there will publish a “how to” script for this. This is an offer to help and support the developers. This would benefit the game and the players.
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Re: New units for PC2

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asuser wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:42 am Dear developers,
I wanted to make a request related to the unit pool:

1. When will the unit pool be increased again, since there weren't that many new units in DLC 1943?
What are the new units in DLC 1943 ?
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Re: New units for PC2

Post by Sequester Grundleplith, MD »

terminator wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:06 am
asuser wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:42 am Dear developers,
I wanted to make a request related to the unit pool:

1. When will the unit pool be increased again, since there weren't that many new units in DLC 1943?
What are the new units in DLC 1943 ?
New models: su-76i might be the only one? And while it was cool for them to represent the Soviets using captured German stuff for a change, the stats were pretty meh

New units: Azul 43 and maybe Kavallerie 43? I didn't think Germany had a 43 upgrade for cavalry, but it appeared about halfway through the campaign

I was hoping we would get some more experimental designs this year, like the Pz III/IV (maybe in '44?), the Heuschrecke 10 as a German KV-2, Geschützwagen Tiger for the 17cm, or someone mentioned the Skoda T-25
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Re: New units for PC2

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asuser wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:42 am Dear developers,
I wanted to make a request related to the unit pool:

1. When will the unit pool be increased again, since there weren't that many new units in DLC 1943?
New unit models that differ significantly from the previous units would be very desirable:

• Bicycle troops (infantry with bicycles for transport)
• Mortar troops (infantry with grenade launcher, artillery usage)
• Artillery tractor vehicles (SU: S-65, FR: Laffly/Somua)
• Single person motorcycle (IT: Moto Guzzi)
• Command ships (US: USS Ancon)
• Troop carrier ships
• Transport ships (US: Liberty class)
• Escort carrier ships

2. Some of the modders would be quite capable of making new unit models and bringing them into the game. The big question here is how will a new 3D model be integrated into the game? This is about the right technique to realize movement and the sound, how does it link to a skin color and the insignia? It would be nice if there will publish a “how to” script for this. This is an offer to help and support the developers. This would benefit the game and the players.
2nd this, and what I want to have is as in Panzer Corps 1 SE Units.... :wink:
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Re: New units for PC2

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Mainly I would like specific 3d models for some existing units that use identical or wrong models to others.
For example, all flamethrower tanks and panzers do not have details that distinguish them from their respective ordinary models (except OT34 which however uses the t34 / 43 model instead of T34 / 41).
Then there is the whole KV1 series which is identical from 40 to 42.
The Italian G50 fighter is identical to the RE2000 but should be more similar to the MC200 Saetta.
Then new units are always welcome, especially infantry!
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Re: New units for PC2

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Sequester Grundleplith, MD wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:09 pm
terminator wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:06 am
asuser wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:42 am Dear developers,
I wanted to make a request related to the unit pool:

1. When will the unit pool be increased again, since there weren't that many new units in DLC 1943?
What are the new units in DLC 1943 ?
New models: su-76i might be the only one? And while it was cool for them to represent the Soviets using captured German stuff for a change, the stats were pretty meh

New units: Azul 43 and maybe Kavallerie 43? I didn't think Germany had a 43 upgrade for cavalry, but it appeared about halfway through the campaign

I was hoping we would get some more experimental designs this year, like the Pz III/IV (maybe in '44?), the Heuschrecke 10 as a German KV-2, Geschützwagen Tiger for the 17cm, or someone mentioned the Skoda T-25
I find Azul Infanterie 43 but not Kavallerie 43 :

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Re: New units for PC2

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We need the Verdeja 1 :)
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Re: New units for PC2

Post by Sequester Grundleplith, MD »

terminator wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:53 am
I find Azul Infanterie 43 but not Kavallerie 43 :



It might be something added by the PanzerCorps 1 GC mod? Similar to how the capital ships can switch to AA mode in the base game if you have that mod enabled
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Re: New units for PC2

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Sequester Grundleplith, MD wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:06 pm It might be something added by the PanzerCorps 1 GC mod? Similar to how the capital ships can switch to AA mode in the base game if you have that mod enabled
Kavalerie 43 does not exist in the base game. the mod adds them yes, since kavalerie was still present in 43.

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Re: New units for PC2

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The outfit distinguishes between Azul Infanterie and Azul Infanterie 43 :

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Re: New units for PC2

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After some players have commented on the topic, it would be very nice if the developers could say something about this, please.
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Re: New units for PC2

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I think we kinda need to figure out what units we want in when the DLCs are over. 1943 was kinda lacking for units and i kinda feel some important stuff is going to be missing as result. What i writen here would IMHO cover everything.

I think Recon might be simplest with only needing

Sd. Kfz. 234/3Sd. For Early 1944
Kfz. 234/4 For Late 1944 Early 1945.
And then Perhaps One Fictional vehicle for 1945 Hypothetical

Anti Air Definitely could use Corelian for 1944
as well as Ostwind II for 1945

Wheres For Self Propeled
Heuschrecke makes perfect sense for Late 1944 as one unit then purchasable in 1945
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuschrecke_10

The Heavy Tank destroyers are well covered.
Perhaps Devs could add fictional Jadmaus but it isnt necessary.

However the Light Tank destroyers are lacking and perhaps having the E10 or E25 could help here.

Not sure what to do for Artilery. Perhaps Adding Sturm Panther of sorts and the perhaps another Vehicle ?

For Tanks i think Adding the E50 and E100 along with Perhaps Panther variant of Flame tank might be good ? Perhaps some fictional Panzer IV variant ?

For Infantry Perhaps Assault Rifle infantry and German Shocktroopers with Bodyarmor in variant in Soviet Shocktroops ?

For Strategic Bombers Heinkel He 277 might fill the gap between Late 1942 and as it would come in Early 1944 if not cancelled and Never Build Stuff

Fighters i actually think are pefrectly covered.

Tactical Bombers could use HS129 C and D Variants but those are simple reskins


Oh as and Aside. PLEASE GIVE US SOME TANK HEROES @Kerensky
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Re: New units for PC2

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CaesarCzech wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:02 pm However the Light Tank destroyers are lacking and perhaps having the E10 or E25 could help here.
Yes, but at the same time existing ones also need stat changes. The Hetzer is somehow better than the StuG IIIG, but should not be and should for sure not be a 5 slot AT vehicle at the same time. The whole point of it was that it was supposed to be a cheap gun platform. This was said in a few other threads and I agree with the whole concept. Light self-propelled AT guns should be a thing more. Not as efficient in stats, but very efficient in slots.
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Re: New units for PC2

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I would like to see more of the early war tank variations, for example the flame tanks.

Char B2 (f) or the OT-26 and the KW-8.
I have read that the germans used variations of panzer I and II as flametanks aswell, but i havent found more information about this.
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Re: New units for PC2

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Bee1976 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:14 pm I would like to see more of the early war tank variations, for example the flame tanks.

Char B2 (f) or the OT-26 and the KW-8.
I have read that the germans used variations of panzer I and II as flametanks aswell, but i havent found more information about this.
We already have the OT26 but unfortunately it has the exact same 3D model as the T26…
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Re: New units for PC2

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Yes. Power to the players!

And while most of us are unable please add the ability to put villages ON mountains/hills and populate the camouflage list in the editor :P
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Re: New units for PC2

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ChristianC wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:31 am Yes. Power to the players!

And while most of us are unable please add the ability to put villages ON mountains/hills and populate the camouflage list in the editor :P
While were at it!... how about considering an "All-Seeing-Eye-Of-Sauron"... from the 'Hobbit-Movie-Series'. This would take the mystery out of the 'Enemies' where-abouts!.
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Re: New units for PC2

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I only noticed today that the Italian Saharan infantry, the one that dismount from its reconnaissance unit, has the 3d model of the German infantry instead of the Italian one.
It would be perfect if a specific model was created for this infantry, as exist yet for the respective British unit
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Re: New units for PC2

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GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:52 am I only noticed today that the Italian Saharan infantry, the one that dismount from its reconnaissance unit, has the 3d model of the German infantry instead of the Italian one.
It would be perfect if a specific model was created for this infantry, as exist yet for the respective British unit
AFAIK that's because Italian 1943 infantry is just a reskinned German one.

I have no idea why (perhaps it's a way to portray Italian Social Republic's army).

Unfortunately, almost all infantry skins in the game are a total mess.
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Re: New units for PC2

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Khancotlette wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:34 am
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:52 am I only noticed today that the Italian Saharan infantry, the one that dismount from its reconnaissance unit, has the 3d model of the German infantry instead of the Italian one.
It would be perfect if a specific model was created for this infantry, as exist yet for the respective British unit
AFAIK that's because Italian 1943 infantry is just a reskinned German one.

I have no idea why (perhaps it's a way to portray Italian Social Republic's army).

Unfortunately, almost all infantry skins in the game are a total mess.
and even worse game is far less moddable than PZC I what with only now several years after release we have first succesfull attempts at new game models from modders
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