Auto rout percentage

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Auto rout percentage

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What is the auto rout percentage for above average troops ?
Is it the same for all above average units or is there some variation as to what above average means ?
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tyronec wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:40 pm What is the auto rout percentage for above average troops ?
Is it the same for all above average units or is there some variation as to what above average means ?
Above Average can be +12 or +25 POA varieties, and these have different autobreak levels
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I've not seen specific percentages mentioned, but from observation I believe the rules of thumb for troop quality and auto break (auto rout) levels are:

Untrained: >20% losses
Raw: >30% losses
Below Average: >40% losses
Average: >50% losses
Above average: >55-60% losses
Superior: >60-65% losses
Highly Superior: >65-70% losses
Elite: >70-75% losses

Of course, troops of less than "Average" quality are likely to rout earlier from failing cohesion tests.

Also, here's a thread where Richard discusses the code that calculates auto break levels:

https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100573

Apparently non-campaign game units use standard values for "Experience" and "Elan", which are used to determine quality, but the values may vary for your units in a campaign as they gain experience at different rates.

Someone correct this if you have better information.
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Re: Auto rout percentage

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Above Average can be +12 or +25 POA varieties, and these have different autobreak levels
Thanks. It seems to be around 47.5% for the +12 variety, I had always thought it was 45% and then got surprised.
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Re: Auto rout percentage

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ray552 wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:54 am Untrained: >20% losses
Raw: >30% losses
Below Average: >40% losses
Average: >50% losses
Above average: >55-60% losses
Superior: >60-65% losses
Highly Superior: >65-70% losses
Elite: >70-75% losses

Someone correct this if you have better information.
I don't think that Untrained, Raw, and Below Average will autobreak at as early as 80%, 70%, and 60% remaining strength, respectively.

The formula (regarding remaining strength at which autobreak occurs) is (I believe, based on RBS' script in the thread link above):

50 - (Quality/10 - 10), where Quality = (Experience + Elan)/2.

=> Raw (roughly 50 Quality): 50 - (50/10 - 10) = 50 - (5 - 10) = 50 + 5 = 55% remaining strength threshold.
=> Below Average (say 75 Quality): 50 - (75/10 - 10) = 50 - (7.5 - 10) = 50 + 2.5 = 52.5%.
=> Above Average (say 112.5 Quality): 50 - (112.5/10 - 10) = 50 - (11.25 - 10) = 50 - 1.25 = 48.75%.
=> Elite (300 Quality): 50 - (300/10 - 10) = 50 - (30 -10) = 50 - 20 = 30%.
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Re: Auto rout percentage

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^ Thanks for the better information :-)
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