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Retributarr wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:35 am ***Alternate Perspectives***
If Japan could do WW2 over again, what would they different?
https://www.quora.com/If-Japan-could-do ... r-conquest
Howard Yale Lederman adjunct Professor of Franchise Law at Thomas M. Cooley Law School (2012–present)

If Japan wanted to win World War II, Japan would have to stay out any war with the two great powers far stronger than her: The United States and the Soviet Union. Also, Japan could never fight so many other nations at the same time. If Japan concluded that it had to go to war, it should have limited its enemies, besides China, to Britain, France, and the Netherlands. All three were relatively weak in the Far East. Even together, they could not assemble the military power to stop Japan. If Japan had adopted and carried out this strategy in 1940–1941, they would have defeated all thee of these colonial powers without forcing America into the war. American public opinion would never have stood for an aggressive war to prop up the dying Western colonial empires in Asia and the Pacific. So, as long as Japan did not attack the US or the Soviet Union, Japan would have emerged from the war victorious with greater industrial and military power than ever and with a strong bargaining hand vis-a-vis these latter two powers.
Howard Lederman
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Could Japan have won WW2 without interservice rivalry?
https://history.stackexchange.com/quest ... ce-rivalry
It depends on just what you include in WW2. IF the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbor (and the Phillipines &c), the US might have been persuaded to remain neutral, allowing them to control much of Southeast Asia. (The colonial powers being pretty well occupied in Europe.) That would have given them access to oil & minerals, and a secure base from which to attack the US in later years. –
jamesqf
Nov 27, 2021 at 18:20


Not exactly. We agree that there's no way Japan could have won against the US after Pearl Harbor. I'm suggesting that if they didn't attack the US then, but took the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, consolidated those territorial gains, then later attacked the US using the resources of their new conquests, it could have won such a war. –
jamesqf
Nov 29, 2021 at 3:54
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The inter service rivalry in the Japanese military did exist, but examples of how that degraded fighting ability are not that prominent.

The IJN made a notable effort to reinforce the IJA on Guadalcanal, and lost a lot of ships, and especially lost a lot of trained naval aviators that they couldn't quickly replace. During the battles around Guadalcanal, most notably the Battle of Santa Cruz, Japan lost over 1/5 of their carrier pilots - such training requiring about a year. These were losses they couldn't replace.

Japan never intended to defeat the US. Remember Admiral Yamamoto's quote: "You can't invade America. There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

The intent was to disable the US Navy, and reinforce their positions around their sources of oil and raw materials, so that any US naval attack would be made over a great distance and at great disadvantage.

Japan appeared to be hoping to recreate the decisive battle of Tsushima in their war with Russia, that led to Russia's withdrawal from that conflict, after the Baltic Fleet had endured a lengthy voyage.

After a similar defeat of the US navy, Japan expected a negotiated peace, with them in possession of the oil and raw materials they wanted.

Could Japan have won or prolonged the war, absent inter service rivalries? No, Japan didn't have the resources. At most, it could have prolonged the war enough to see use of more nuclear(Atomic) bombs.
That is interesting thing to find but this is also why a-historical route for both campaigns would be both stories as the fighting was not like what we would see in Europe. There were no swiping defects that toke days to weeks to get minus the first mouth of the war. Most toke place over series of mouths of doing build up with a follow up with heavy fighting that toke hour to half of day of shelling and mass assaults of fortified positions that kill hundreds, or the navel fleets battle where no one but planes and ships shoot at each other where once the enemy carrier was dead or wounded, they ran away or night battles that happen sometimes as long as 30 mins or less.

I cannot see a campaign in Panzer Corps 2 where any of this is fun or work our minds on wining the mission. Cause the main part of panzer corps in movement, surround, and capture/destroy the enemy in a turn or two. This kind of fight is not suited for Panzer Corps but can work in a way that can be fun and not run our heads in to a brick wall like the Allied did during the war. Cause the way I see it happening is for an army size is mass air destroys being anti air and submarines battleships and heavy cruisers blowing up fortified position, carriers our airfields and overstrength infantry with so artillery as support on every map and tanks use to tank attack because they have no use in jungle warfare. The way game is right now infantry take so much of resources to keep the XP that most everything else is second to them. Fighters in the game are not much help as they do little damage to anything other enemy fighters where in the war most if not all fights were modified to drop small bombs or shoot rockets as well. What about capturing stuff in the game what to take all of the Japanese tanks were useless in the war and was out class by everyone else tanks.

here a video does put to bed the myth that if Japan did not attack American, they could win the war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4v_2zq35k
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I dont know what you can do for this campaign but there to many thing that has put down any myth that japan could have stead live after world war 2 as it was before it
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CaptainRope1 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:56 am
Retributarr wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:35 am ***Alternate Perspectives***
If Japan could do WW2 over again, what would they different?
https://www.quora.com/If-Japan-could-do ... r-conquest
Howard Yale Lederman adjunct Professor of Franchise Law at Thomas M. Cooley Law School (2012–present)

If Japan wanted to win World War II, Japan would have to stay out any war with the two great powers far stronger than her: such as... The United States and the Soviet Union [& CHINA]. Also, Japan could never fight so many other nations at the same time. If Japan concluded that it had to go to war, it should have limited its enemies, besides China [China was too big... too much territory to subjugate all at once... Japan could have left China out of their ambitions], to Britain, France, and the Netherlands. All three were relatively weak in the Far East. Even together, they could not assemble the military power to stop Japan. If Japan had adopted and carried out this strategy in 1940–1941, they would have defeated all three of these colonial powers without forcing America into the war. American public opinion would never have stood for an aggressive war to prop up the dying Western colonial empires in Asia and the Pacific. So, as long as Japan did not attack the US or the Soviet Union, Japan would have emerged from the war victorious with greater industrial and military power than ever and with a strong bargaining hand vis-a-vis these latter two powers.
Howard Lederman
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Could Japan have won WW2 without interservice rivalry?
https://history.stackexchange.com/quest ... ce-rivalry
It depends on just what you include in WW2. IF the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbor (and the Phillipines &c), the US might have been persuaded to remain neutral, allowing them to control much of Southeast Asia. (The colonial powers being pretty well occupied in Europe.) That would have given them access to oil & minerals, and a secure base from which to attack the US in later years.
jamesqf
Nov 27, 2021 at 18:20


Not exactly. We agree that there's no way Japan could have won against the US after Pearl Harbor. I'm suggesting that if they [JAPAN] didn't attack the US then, but took the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, consolidated those territorial gains, then later attacked the US using the resources of their new conquests, it could have won such a war. –
jamesqf
Nov 29, 2021 at 3:54

b]Japan never intended to defeat the US.[/b] Remember Admiral Yamamoto's quote: "You can't invade America. There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
here a video does put to bed the myth that if Japan did not attack American, they could win the war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4v_2zq35k
By the way! "CaptainRope1"... 'Good-VIDEO!',
This "Presentation-Narrator"... bases the 'Ultimate Japanese Defeat' on Japan actually going 'Full-Bore' in attacking China and following through later on with the 'Attack on Pearl-Harbour'... both of which either or both... did not need to happen!.

Had the Japanese "NOT" attacked "China & Pearl-Harbour"... the scene would have changed dramatically... very likely resulting in Japan not becoming embroiled in a full-scale war with everybody including the U.S.
Soon!... Russia would be very-concerned with Germany's invasion of Russia and have little or no-time to be worried or concerned about Japan or what they were doing!.

If 'JAPAN' had just focused on doing this instead...
***if they [JAPAN] didn't attack the US (or CHINA) then, but took the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, consolidated those territorial gains***_ _ _ which were rich in Oil and also had Mineral Resources (Metals...etc.) ... they then they could have upscaled as well as modernized their Military like China is presently doing now... and then... if later on the situation presented itself due to the prevailing conditions that Japan was facing... they could then decide on their next move or course of action to determine if either China or the U.S. was a matter to be concerned about.
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Retributarr wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:17 am
CaptainRope1 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:56 am
Retributarr wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:35 am ***Alternate Perspectives***
If Japan could do WW2 over again, what would they different?
https://www.quora.com/If-Japan-could-do ... r-conquest
Howard Yale Lederman adjunct Professor of Franchise Law at Thomas M. Cooley Law School (2012–present)

If Japan wanted to win World War II, Japan would have to stay out any war with the two great powers far stronger than her: such as... The United States and the Soviet Union [& CHINA]. Also, Japan could never fight so many other nations at the same time. If Japan concluded that it had to go to war, it should have limited its enemies, besides China [China was too big... too much territory to subjugate all at once... Japan could have left China out of their ambitions], to Britain, France, and the Netherlands. All three were relatively weak in the Far East. Even together, they could not assemble the military power to stop Japan. If Japan had adopted and carried out this strategy in 1940–1941, they would have defeated all three of these colonial powers without forcing America into the war. American public opinion would never have stood for an aggressive war to prop up the dying Western colonial empires in Asia and the Pacific. So, as long as Japan did not attack the US or the Soviet Union, Japan would have emerged from the war victorious with greater industrial and military power than ever and with a strong bargaining hand vis-a-vis these latter two powers.
Howard Lederman
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Could Japan have won WW2 without interservice rivalry?
https://history.stackexchange.com/quest ... ce-rivalry
It depends on just what you include in WW2. IF the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbor (and the Phillipines &c), the US might have been persuaded to remain neutral, allowing them to control much of Southeast Asia. (The colonial powers being pretty well occupied in Europe.) That would have given them access to oil & minerals, and a secure base from which to attack the US in later years.
jamesqf
Nov 27, 2021 at 18:20


Not exactly. We agree that there's no way Japan could have won against the US after Pearl Harbor. I'm suggesting that if they [JAPAN] didn't attack the US then, but took the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, consolidated those territorial gains, then later attacked the US using the resources of their new conquests, it could have won such a war. –
jamesqf
Nov 29, 2021 at 3:54

b]Japan never intended to defeat the US.[/b] Remember Admiral Yamamoto's quote: "You can't invade America. There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
here a video does put to bed the myth that if Japan did not attack American, they could win the war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4v_2zq35k
By the way! "CaptainRope1"... 'Good-VIDEO!',
This "Presentation-Narrator"... bases the 'Ultimate Japanese Defeat' on Japan actually going 'Full-Bore' in attacking China and following through later on with the 'Attack on Pearl-Harbour'... both of which either or both... did not need to happen!.

Had the Japanese "NOT" attacked "China & Pearl-Harbour"... the scene would have changed dramatically... very likely resulting in Japan not becoming embroiled in a full-scale war with everybody including the U.S.
Soon!... Russia would be very-concerned with Germany's invasion of Russia and have little or no-time to be worried or concerned about Japan or what they were doing!.

If 'JAPAN' had just focused on doing this instead...
***if they [JAPAN] didn't attack the US (or CHINA) then, but took the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, consolidated those territorial gains***_ _ _ which were rich in Oil and also had Mineral Resources (Metals...etc.) ... they then they could have upscaled as well as modernized their Military like China is presently doing now... and then... if later on the situation presented itself due to the prevailing conditions that Japan was facing... they could then decide on their next move or course of action to determine if either China or the U.S. was a matter to be concerned about.
The thing is if we are going to have a Japanese campaign it should start in 1933 China with the invasion Manchong or start when the battle of Tocnk Ghal in 1939 which is what made the discus to attack the American in the first place. I think we should focus on not how Japan could have won the war but to see how they fought it.
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CaptainRope1 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:56 am here a video does put to bed the myth that if Japan did not attack American, they could win the war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4v_2zq35k
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The thing is if we are going to have a Japanese campaign it should start in 1933 China with the invasion Manchong or start when the battle of Tocnk Ghal in 1939 which is what made the discus to attack the American in the first place. I think we should focus on not how Japan could have won the war but to see how they fought it.
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Retributarr wrote:
"Mon-Kapitan... CaptainRope1"

The information i have been giving was just to illustrate that the Japanese might have made some different choices that very-well could have drastically altered the events of the Asian Pacific region during WWII. Something perhaps for an "Ahypothetical" DLC?... Why-Not?.

If this alternate procedure was used instead... the Japanese would then later on have been in a much better position to take on China... if that is what they felt they had to or needed to do.

This information that i submitted... was not intentionally meant to be a "Sacred-Scroll" or "Blue-Print" for how the Game should be developed or made... it was an "Idea" for a possible Ahypothetical addition later on?... it would be intriguing to see what the final out-come would be, to see what would happen.

So!... I agree with you!!!... do start with 1933 China and then go from there... let the actual true historical events be played-out as they transpired!... "no-changes-needed!".
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Retributarr wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:24 pm
CaptainRope1 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:56 am here a video does put to bed the myth that if Japan did not attack American, they could win the war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4v_2zq35k
CaptainRope1 post
The thing is if we are going to have a Japanese campaign it should start in 1933 China with the invasion Manchong or start when the battle of Tocnk Ghal in 1939 which is what made the discus to attack the American in the first place. I think we should focus on not how Japan could have won the war but to see how they fought it.
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Retributarr wrote:
"Mon-Kapitan... CaptainRope1"

The information i have been giving was just to illustrate that the Japanese might have made some different choices that very-well could have drastically altered the events of the Asian Pacific region during WWII. Something perhaps for an "Ahypothetical" DLC?... Why-Not?.

If this alternate procedure was used instead... the Japanese would then later on have been in a much better position to take on China... if that is what they felt they had to or needed to do.

This information that i submitted... was not intentionally meant to be a "Sacred-Scroll" or "Blue-Print" for how the Game should be developed or made... it was an "Idea" for a possible Ahypothetical addition later on?... it would be intriguing to see what the final out-come would be, to see what would happen.

So!... I agree with you!!!... do start with 1933 China and then go from there... let the actual true historical events be played-out as they transpired!... "no-changes-needed!".
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I thought of a fun Gift unit for the Pacific campaign and that would be the Bob Simple Tank https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/wp-conte ... nk-1-1.jpg and here a video for it as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8hRRCFdnnk just for fun and would love to see it just for the meme it can be
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First!... reintroduce topic with... a "Refresher-Repost":

If Japan could do WW2 over again, what would they different?
https://www.quora.com/If-Japan-could-do ... r-conquest
(Howard Yale Lederman adjunct Professor of Franchise Law at Thomas M. Cooley Law School (2012–present)

***[ Had the Japanese "NOT" attacked "China & Pearl-Harbour"]... the scene would have changed dramatically... very likely resulting in Japan not becoming embroiled in a full-scale war with everybody including the U.S.

Soon!... Russia would be very-concerned with Germany's invasion of Russia and have little or no-time to be worried or concerned about Japan or what they were doing!.

If 'JAPAN' had just focused on doing this instead...
***if they [JAPAN] didn't attack the US (or CHINA) then, but took the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, consolidated those territorial gains***_ _ _ which were rich in Oil and also had Mineral Resources (Metals...etc.) ... they then they could have upscaled as well as modernized their Military like China is presently doing now... and then... if later on the situation presented itself due to the prevailing conditions that Japan was facing... they could then decide on their next move or course of action to determine if either China or the U.S. was a matter to be concerned about.

Could Japan have won WW2 without interservice rivalry?:
https://history.stackexchange.com/quest ... ce-rivalry
It depends on just what you include in WW2. IF the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbor (and the Phillipines &c), the US might have been persuaded to remain neutral, allowing them (Uapan) to control much of Southeast Asia. (The colonial powers being pretty well occupied in Europe.) That would have given them access to oil & minerals, and a secure base from which to attack the US in later years. –
jamesqf
Nov 27, 2021 at 18:20 ]**
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Now!... to continue!... to the conclusion of this "Ahistorical premise!".

Previous: "[Soon!... Russia would be very-concerned with Germany's invasion of Russia and have little or no-time to be worried or concerned about Japan or what they were doing!.]"

...At this point!... should "Japan" after "rebuilding and retrofitting/upgrading" their forces after the... conquests of the British, French, & Dutch territories in SE Asia, and then having consolidated those territorial gains... by utilizing or putting to use... the Oil and Mineral Resources (&Metals...etc.)... for their War-Time-Industries***... Japan could now be fully-prepared to plan ahead!.

Japan would now be in a position to take on the decision for the conquest of "China"... after now being in a much better "prepared or reconstituted position" to take on that challenge... and if actually successful at it or satisfied with their current rate of progress... or even the possible conclusion of that invasion effort ... to then make preparations to strike at Russia!... when Russia's defense forces were no-longer an "In the Face" hindering obstacle... to blunt their efforts.

When Russia had withdrawn the "Siberian-Divisions" which were just previously protecting Russia's border with Mongolia... to then shift these Siberian-Forces... to relocate them to Moscow's defense perimeter to bolster and reinforce their existing defense forces around and in that City... the Chinese could at this point have waited till the Siberian Divisions were fully-engaged with the Germans at Moscow to make their next move!.

This way!... China could also have gained some Russian-Territory with its resources... and also have possibly accelerated the collapse of the Russian armed forces... thus bringing a speedier conclusion to the German-Russian conflict in the east.

At this potential eventuality!... both Germany and China would be free of any of their previous threatening obstacles to their ambitions. Germany could now better prepare for the 'Western Theatre' and China flushed with an abundance of everything they could possibly want or need... could then be better prepared for what-ever comes their way or for what-ever they intend to do nextl
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Has anyone have any ideas for WWII-JAPAN and the Pacific region?:
In the "In-Term"... i "Present" this for something to think about!.

HISTORY | SEPTEMBER 17, 2013
10 Alternative World War II Plans That Would Have Changed History
https://listverse.com/2013/09/17/10-alt ... re%20items

If any of the plans below had been used, our history would have changed entirely.

*** 10 The Two Japanese Proposals To Invade Australia ***
Introduction:
To prevent Australia becoming a base for the expected American counter-offensive following the treacherous Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Japan's Navy General Staff sought as early as December 1941 to press for control over Australia as a major "Stage Two" war objective.* The Navy General Staff planned to achieve this control of Australia by invading strategically important coastal areas of the northern Australian mainland and severing the lines of communication between Australia and the United States by blockade.

In discussions between Operations chiefs of the Japanese Navy and Army from December 1941 to early March 1942, the senior generals made clear their objections to the Navy plan for limited invasions of the Australian mainland. The Japanese Army, and the Prime Minister of Japan, General Hideki Tojo, opposed the Navy's plan because they believed that invading and occupying only coastal areas of the northern Australian mainland would expose Japan to a lengthy war of attrition similar to the one that was tying down thirty Japanese divisions in China. [***If JAPAN had delayed the Invasion of China until a little later-on... the proposed invasion of Australia could still have taken place!.***]

The generals believed that the vast size of the Australian mainland would require commitment of at least ten Japanese Army divisions to crush all resistance. They argued that those ten divisions were needed in Manchukuo (formerly Chinese Manchuria) to guard against a Soviet advance into Manchukuo. They also argued that maintaining ten Japanese divisions on the Australian mainland would impose an impossible logistical burden on Japan's merchant fleet which was already heavily committed to transporting raw materials from the countries conquered by Japan in South-East Asia.

*** 9 An Allied Invasion One Year Earlier Than D-Day***
In 1942, General Dwight Eisenhower came up with a plan for early invasion of Germany. Dubbed Operation Round-up, the plan would see Allied forces land in France as early as 1943

*** 8 Hitler’s Plan To Invade Switzerland ***
After the resounding victory over France in 1940, Hitler quickly ordered his generals to prepare a plan for the invasion of Switzerland. Called Operation Tannenbaum (German for “pine”), the campaign initially called for 21 German divisions, but was later reduced to 11 coming in from the north and 15 Italian divisions in the south. Fortunately, Hitler, who hated the Swiss to the point of calling their nation a “pimple in the face of Europe,” never gave the go-ahead to invade.

*** 7 Germany’s Invasion Of Britain ***
Hitler also planned to invade Great Britain after defeating France. Operation Seelowe (German for Sea Lion) would have mobilized 160,000 German soldiers aboard 2,000 barges to cross the English Channel.

*** 6 Britain And France’s Air Strike On The Soviet Union ***
Shortly before World War II started, Britain and France were already concerned about the Soviet Union supplying oil to Germany. Both countries had just signed a non-aggression pact, allowing Germany to start the war without Soviet interference.

In response, British and French planners developed a plan, dubbed Operation Pike, to severely cripple the Soviet economy by bombing key oil facilities. The oil shortage would also undermine the German war effort. They concluded that the best targets would be the oil fields of Azerbaijan, which were within striking distance of British and French bombers stationed in the Middle East.

*** 5 Japan’s Own Soviet Invasion Plan ***
As early as 1937, the Japanese had already planned a series of operations to take Soviet territories in the Far East, particularly Siberia. During an Imperial Conference in July 1941, the Japanese agreed that they would invade Soviet territory only if Germany’s own invasion of the Soviet Union was going well. The Soviets would have been forced to fight a two-front war against the Germans in the west and the Japanese in the east. Though the Japanese and Soviets had a neutrality pact, neither side trusted the other, and both continued to station large armies along their border.

*** 4 Germany Planned To Invade Gibraltar And Force Spain Into The War ***
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In 1940, the Nazis, smarting from their failure to pave the way for the invasion of Britain by destroying the Royal Air Force, hatched a plan to take the British stronghold of Gibraltar. By seizing Gibraltar, located at the tip of the Iberian Peninsula, Germany could prevent the Royal Navy from operating in the Mediterranean and completely cut off Britain’s supply lines from the Suez Canal.

They would try to starve the British into surrender.Code-named Operation Felix, the invasion required sending German troops into neutral Spain.

*** 3 Japan Intended To Strike The US With Chemical Bombs ***
In the closing days of the war, Unit 731, Japan’s feared biological and chemical warfare unit, planned a deadly chemical attack on the United States. Kamikaze bombers loaded with plague bombs would target a poorly defended but densely populated area. The chosen target was San Diego, California. The mission, called Operation Cherry Blossoms in the Night, would be carried out on September 22, 1945.

*** 2 The US Would Have Invaded Japan ***
In April 1945, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff appointed General Douglas MacArthur to lead the final invasion force against Japan. Code-named Operation Downfall, the plan called for a whopping 2.5 million soldiers. The plan itself was divided into two parts: Operation Olympic and Operation Coronet. Both would have been larger than the Normandy D-day landings. Given that the Japanese were prepared to fight to the death, the Allies were willing to use chemical warfare.

*** 1 Churchill’s Plans For World War III ***

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After Germany’s defeat, Europe was now divided between the Allies in the west and the Soviets in the east. Winston Churchill did not trust Stalin to liberate the countries his forces occupied, and so he and his military planners prepared Operation Unthinkable, which would have pitted the Allied forces against Soviet troops across Europe. Hostilities would begin on July 1, 1945 and involve re-arming 100,000 German soldiers to join the Allies. He also wanted the US to use the atomic bomb should the Soviets refuse to surrender. Churchill’s plans never transpired, as the Americans were too weary for another war. In a cable sent from the White House, US President Harry Truman told him the US would not help him drive the Russians from Eastern Europe.






















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World War II: The Battle of Midway | Full Movie (Feature Documentary) ...& more likewise related subject videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZH-K0theTg [Video's Page]

VIDEO URL: https://youtu.be/TZH-K0theTg World War II: The Battle of Midway
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Was there any strategy that would have allowed Japan to win WWII
https://www.quora.com/Was-there-any-str ... ted-peace

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There was a strategy where Japan could have more likely been on the winning side, and that was to attack the USSR soon after the German invasion in June 1941.

This was Stalin’s nightmare scenario…a war on two fronts. This scenario sharply reduces Stalin’s ability to use most of the best Siberian forces to face the Germans, and makes unfettered US lend-lease shipments through the Soviet Pacific ports unlikely.

Japan’s participation could only weaken the USSR’s defense against Germany, and increase Stalin’s chances of not surviving a likely coup if the war is much worse than it was, and it was already pretty bleak until draconian internal mobilizations and lend-lease aid could assure eventual defeat of the Germans in our timeline.

In this alternate timeline, Japan’s involvement significantly increases the likelihood of a Soviet collapse before it has a chance to recover from the shocks of invasions on two fronts. This strategy has the potential outcome that puts the Axis powers in control of all the resources that they need to fight the Anglo-American alliance that would surely be created if the USSR collapsed.

As it was, they (Axis Powers) prosecuted two completely separate wars that didn’t even have the USSR as a common enemy, possibly the biggest blunder they made, but thankfully a scenario never realized.
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Retributarr wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:08 pm World War II: The Battle of Midway | Full Movie (Feature Documentary) ...& more likewise related subject videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZH-K0theTg [Video's Page]

VIDEO URL: https://youtu.be/TZH-K0theTg World War II: The Battle of Midway
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Unfinished Business!:
In this VIDEO... it briefly mentions that one of "Nagumo's" spotter-planes was 1/2 hour late in launching into its surveillance mission as compared to the other previously launched spotter aircraft.

Finally after a late launch... this spotter plane... while doing its reconnaissance flight NW of Nagumo's Main Fleet... now being 1/2 hour "Late!"... the spotter aircraft finally was able to do its survey-mission... and when it finally did... it reported on the approach of the American Carrier-Fleet.

But then,... it was "Too-Late!" for "Nagumo" to effect the transition of changing out his carrier attack aircraft back from "Bombs to Torpedo's" with which to sink and destroy the American Fleet.

He needed the better part of an 'Hour' to make the transition change-over... to revert back again from 'Bombs' to 'Torpedoes'... to attack 'American Ships'... and he had only minutes remaining before the 'American Strike Aircraft' would soon be approaching to attack his fleet instead!.

Had that one-spotter-plane "Not Been Late"... it would have been "Nagumo" who would have destroyed the American Fleet... instead of Nagumo's Fleet being destroyed!.
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What if Japan invaded the Soviet Union in World War 2?
VIDEO URL: https://youtu.be/KQFZZo3A2no
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Hi All,

I restarted my PzC campaign on Generalissmus level and noticed that the Naval-Air battles became much more difficult (I like it though). I have probably missed a release note and believe it´s related to the new mechanics of the Pacific DLC.

However, on Crete I had hard time to park my fighters and tac bombers on the middle peninsula, because a lot of ships can reach them with their AA guns and it´s nearly impossible to start any action in line with the "old" tactic because in every turn, I have to repair them to avoid losses.

I also noticed that now several ships have an AA gun (maybe it was also before, I just didn´t pay attention).

I would be glad to read about the details of the new mechanism, to understand if there is a weak point for those ships (is there any condition when their AA gun is inactive?). Could somebody please share with me any description of the new naval mechanism? Soon I´m getting to the Operation Cerberus and there, these issues gonna be even more critical.
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truth80 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:46 am Hi All,

I restarted my PzC campaign on Generalissmus level and noticed that the Naval-Air battles became much more difficult (I like it though). I have probably missed a release note and believe it´s related to the new mechanics of the Pacific DLC.

However, on Crete I had hard time to park my fighters and tac bombers on the middle peninsula, because a lot of ships can reach them with their AA guns and it´s nearly impossible to start any action in line with the "old" tactic because in every turn, I have to repair them to avoid losses.

I also noticed that now several ships have an AA gun (maybe it was also before, I just didn´t pay attention).

I would be glad to read about the details of the new mechanism, to understand if there is a weak point for those ships (is there any condition when their AA gun is inactive?). Could somebody please share with me any description of the new naval mechanism? Soon I´m getting to the Operation Cerberus and there, these issues gonna be even more critical.
Disable your Naval AA mod in mod manager.
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Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific

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VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:02 am
truth80 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:46 am Hi All,

I restarted my PzC campaign on Generalissmus level and noticed that the Naval-Air battles became much more difficult (I like it though). I have probably missed a release note and believe it´s related to the new mechanics of the Pacific DLC.

However, on Crete I had hard time to park my fighters and tac bombers on the middle peninsula, because a lot of ships can reach them with their AA guns and it´s nearly impossible to start any action in line with the "old" tactic because in every turn, I have to repair them to avoid losses.

I also noticed that now several ships have an AA gun (maybe it was also before, I just didn´t pay attention).

I would be glad to read about the details of the new mechanism, to understand if there is a weak point for those ships (is there any condition when their AA gun is inactive?). Could somebody please share with me any description of the new naval mechanism? Soon I´m getting to the Operation Cerberus and there, these issues gonna be even more critical.
Disable your Naval AA mod in mod manager.
I would wonder if I have that, but I will check. Thanks!
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboo ... es%20four.
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The Story of How Japan Sunk Britain's Best Battleship, the HMS Prince of Wales
***Portion of Commentary only***

On December 10, Prince of Wales and Repulse were caught in the open sea by eighty-seven Japanese aircraft. Repulse suffered five torpedo hits, Prince of Wales four. Both ships sank, although most of the crews of each were saved.

Winston Churchill felt that the destruction of Prince of Wales and Repulse was a greater blow to Allied sea power than the Pearl Harbor attack. Certainly, it demonstrated that battleships could not hope to survive without support from aircraft, either from carriers or land bases.

87 Aircraft "is a lot!"... but even-so... "Anti-Aircraft-Gun-Mounts" on ships were not very effective at downing attacking aircraft... especially... when of course, they come in at you with overwhelming numbers!.

Do some research on the internet to find out what was actually the case here!.
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VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:02 am
truth80 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:46 am Hi All,

I restarted my PzC campaign on Generalissmus level and noticed that the Naval-Air battles became much more difficult (I like it though). I have probably missed a release note and believe it´s related to the new mechanics of the Pacific DLC.

However, on Crete I had hard time to park my fighters and tac bombers on the middle peninsula, because a lot of ships can reach them with their AA guns and it´s nearly impossible to start any action in line with the "old" tactic because in every turn, I have to repair them to avoid losses.

I also noticed that now several ships have an AA gun (maybe it was also before, I just didn´t pay attention).

I would be glad to read about the details of the new mechanism, to understand if there is a weak point for those ships (is there any condition when their AA gun is inactive?). Could somebody please share with me any description of the new naval mechanism? Soon I´m getting to the Operation Cerberus and there, these issues gonna be even more critical.
Disable your Naval AA mod in mod manager.

I checked, I do not have the Naval AA mod at all. Any other idea?
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truth80 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:08 pm
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:02 am
truth80 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:46 am Hi All,

I restarted my PzC campaign on Generalissmus level and noticed that the Naval-Air battles became much more difficult (I like it though). I have probably missed a release note and believe it´s related to the new mechanics of the Pacific DLC.

However, on Crete I had hard time to park my fighters and tac bombers on the middle peninsula, because a lot of ships can reach them with their AA guns and it´s nearly impossible to start any action in line with the "old" tactic because in every turn, I have to repair them to avoid losses.

I also noticed that now several ships have an AA gun (maybe it was also before, I just didn´t pay attention).

I would be glad to read about the details of the new mechanism, to understand if there is a weak point for those ships (is there any condition when their AA gun is inactive?). Could somebody please share with me any description of the new naval mechanism? Soon I´m getting to the Operation Cerberus and there, these issues gonna be even more critical.
Disable your Naval AA mod in mod manager.

I checked, I do not have the Naval AA mod at all. Any other idea?
SOE and PC1 remake both have ships with AA mode. turn them of and reload a save from before the naval map and ships will be back to normal.

sers,
Thomas
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Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific

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Grondel wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:28 pm
truth80 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:08 pm
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:02 am

Disable your Naval AA mod in mod manager.

I checked, I do not have the Naval AA mod at all. Any other idea?
SOE and PC1 remake both have ships with AA mode. turn them of and reload a save from before the naval map and ships will be back to normal.

sers,
Thomas
Hi Thomas, I had both the Storm over Europe and PC1 remake mods :) Now, they're switched off. Let's see. Thanks for your help!
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