Unit Badges

[asuser]

Hello fsx,

thanks for your note. I try to understand.

In my first version I used for the aircraft units images with the format 296x296 pixels. With this format, the same aircraft in the air (1st line?) is used also for the air/ground mode. If the standard format for aircraft units (296x444 pixels) is used, the bottom plane (3rd line?) without the badge is shown. I will change (Badges also for aircraft in the 3rd line) this! As I said, these were the first units and when everything else is ok, I will prepare the icons for the next upload. Thanks for the feedback!

Greetings!

[asuser]

... And now we come to the interesting subject of how different unit structures could be represented. Member cedonxp asked if such a thing were possible.

Starting point would be the rough parts of a tank division as bonus or elite units with the specific division badges:

Tank:

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Artillery:

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Infantry:

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… to be continued ... in the following message…

[asuser]

...The normal structure of combat forces would be from top to bottom:

-Division
-Regiment
-Battalion
-Company

If we could agree that the top level is division as the highest level, then three possible sub-levels would be possible. This could be implemented as follows. The unit badge sets the division level. The following levels can be displayed beside the division sign as small numbers, as seen in the following example:

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In this case, from left to right represents the 1 Regiment, the 2 Battalion and the 3 Company. Alternatively, these numbers could be shown in a something greater size on the “free side” or in the unit name. Then you can make further variants, for vehicles you can choose different camouflage patterns, attaching numerals and kill marks and for infantry by varying the uniform colors (sometimes difficult to see). At this point, several questions arise:

What is the better way for the Icon?
Should I present the units with badges or only the badges in the corresponding scaled quantity for your own use?


Greetings!

[cedonxp]

Wow, thats cool! I honestly could go for either concept and be really happy. But for sake of choosing I like your numbering scheme. Man I love what you're doing here.

[guille1434]

Very good England 1945 Campaign badge!

[asuser]

Hi friends of unit badges or badged units,

thank you for your positive feedback!

That's what I needed to keep going. If there is otherwise no other improvements, then I'll try to present one after another complete core units (eg, 21st Panzer Division - German Africa Corps) or other elite units (eg 1st SS Panzer Division LSSAH) with all its sub forces (in addition to tanks, artillery and infantry, there were also reconnaissence, signal, tank destroyers, antiaircraft, engineers ...). In addition to this, I will present fictitious units with badges (Krupp Löwe tank or ground / air missile system Rheintochter) for further use.

Btw. The system of division structure and elite units could also be implemented for Soviet (Guards), Italian (Bersaglieri), US (Marines and Rangers) and English units (Highlands, SAS...). The only thing to do is to find the right elite unit badges for these troops?

Well, then now would be again an opportunity to make special requests (size, location, colour, structure...) to the badge, otherwise the “badge train” leave now the train station ...

A technical question: Is there a way to upload more than three files or images?

Greetings!

[cedonxp]

Please press on! This is going to be awesome!

[guille1434]

To complete the work posted by Asuser, related to the special Brückenpioniere badged unit icon, here it is the complementary transport unit for that outfit... The very special Schwerer Pioniertransporter L4500, in its wheeled and "maultier" (half track) version.

This was the result of a very positive (and fun!) collaboration work between the two of us. I hope you like the result, we did, of course!

[cedonxp]

To complete the work posted by Asuser, related to the special Brückenpioniere badged unit icon, here it is the complementary transport unit for that outfit... The very special Schwerer Pioniertransporter L4500, in its wheeled and "maultier" (half track) version.

This was the result of a very positive (and fun!) collaboration work between the two of us. I hope you like the result, we did, of course!

Keep having fun then! Your pioniertransporter looks incredible.

[guille1434]

Cedonxp: We are very glad you liked the unit...
Both Asuser and me are very happy about users here showing interest in what are we doing!!!

Thumbs up and thanks for the nice words!

[asuser]

Hello and thanks also from my side,

I was thinking, I also publish a central panel with all the badges used by me in the appropriate size in addition to the badged units. This panel is then updated by me time after time. So everybody can mark each of its own units. Give me a little time ...

Greetings from Germany!

[asuser]

...Ok, as announced at this point I show the badge panel. The badges are displayed consecutively numbered and sorted by ground, air and maybe naval units. Despite careful investigation there could be faults in the real names or in the numbering...Sorry about! It is continuously updated so stay tuned ...



Ground Units Real
01: German 9. SS Tank Division
02: Soviet Guard Troops
03: German Heavy Tank Battalion 507
04: American 82. Airborne Division
05: American 101. Airborne Division
06: German 1. Airborne Division
07: German 3. Airborne Division
08: German 1. SS Tank Division
09: German 2. SS Tank Division
10: German 3. SS Tank Division
11: German 12. SS Tank Division
12: French Foreign Legion
13: American 508. Parachute Infantry Regiment (Red Devils)
14: American 1. Infantry Division (Big Red One)
15: German Assault Gun Brigade 232
16: German Assault Gun Brigade 912
17: German Assault Gun Brigade 301
18: German Assault Gun Brigade 202
19: German Assault Gun Brigade 667
20: German Assault Gun Brigade 244
21: German Tank Grenadier Division "GD"
22: German Tank Grenadier Division "GD" (alternativ)
23: German Heavy Tank Hunter Battalion 653
24: British Paratrooper Regiment (Red Devils)
25: American Ranger
26: British SAS
27: German Special Forces "Brandenburger"
28: German Tank Division 116
29: German 5. SS Tank Division
30: German 7. SS Tank Division
31: German 10. SS Tank Division
32: German 16. SS Tank Division
33: German 17. SS Tank Division
34: German 18. SS Tank Division
35: German Heavy Tank Hunter Battalion 654
36: British 6. Airborne Division
37: German Tank Division 18
38: German Tank Division 26
39: German Infantry Division 15
40: German Infantry Division 19
41: German Infantry Division 21
42: German Mountain Division 4
43: German Infantry Division 6
44: German Infantry Division 17
45: German Afrika Korps
46: American Armored Corps
47: American 1. Cavalry Division
48: British 4. Infantry Division
49: American 27. Infantry Division
50: American 2. Infantry Division
51: American Tank Destroyer Forces
52: German Mountain Division 2
53: German Mountain Division 6
54: German Mountain Division 8
55: German Heavy Tank Hunter Battalion 519
56: German Mountain Division 1
57: German Sharp Shooters
58: Italian Infantry Division "Bersagliere"
59: Italian Paratrooper Division "Folgore"
60: German Tank Division 1
61: German Tank Division 1 (alternativ)
62: German Tank Division 2
63: German Tank Division 3
64: German Tank Division 4
65: German Tank Division 4 (alternativ)
66: German Tank Division 11
67: German Tank Division 12
68: German Tank Division 21
69: German Tank Division 24
70: German Tank Division "Lehr"
71: German Assault Gun Brigade 287
72: German Assault Gun Brigade 177
73: German 29. SS Grenadier Division (Italian)
74: Italian Marine Division (Decima MAS)
75: Italian Infantry Divison RSI
76: British Highland Infantry Division
77: British/India Gurkha Infantry Division
78: German Heavy SS Tank Battalion 101
79: German Heavy Tank Battalion 505
80: German Assault Gun Brigade 183
81: German Assault Gun Brigade 197 / 653
82: German Assault Gun Brigade 210
83: German Assault Gun Brigade 667
84: German Assault Gun Brigade 185
85: German Assault Gun Brigade 185 (alternativ)
86: German Assault Gun Brigade 192
87: German Infantry Division 1
88: German Infantry Division 2

Ground Units Future
01: German Marine Infantry
02: German Expedition Corps Operation Sealion
03: German Heavy Tank Battalion 150
04: German Ground/Air Rocket Battalion 1
05: German 50. Paratrooper Storm Regiment
06: German Ground/Air Rocket Battalion 2

Air Units Real
01: German Storm Squadron 1
02: German Fighter Bomber Squadron 2 / Group 2
03: German Destroyer Squadron 26
04: German Fighter Squadron 1
05: German Fighter Squadron 1 (alternativ)
06: GFS 1 / Group 1
07: GFS 1 / Group 2
08: GFS 1 / Group 3
09: British Spitfire Squadron 274
10: British Spitfire Squadron 303 (Polish)
11: British Spitfire Squadron 74
12: British Spitfire Squadron (Polish additional)
13: British Spitfire Squadron 41
14: American 334. Fighter Squadron
15: American 335. Fighter Squadron
16: German Fighter Squadron 7
17: German Fighter Squadron 52
18: GFS 52 / Group 1 / Platoon 2, Group 2 / Platoon 5
19: GFS 52 / Group 2 / Platoon 4
20: German Fighter Squadron 300
21: German Fighter Bomber Squadron 2 / Group 1
22: German Fighter Bomber Squadron 55
23: German Fighter Bomber Squadron 76
24: German Fighter Squadron 2
25: German Fighter Squadron 4
26: German Fighter Squadron 5
27: German Fighter Squadron 27 / Group 1
28: German Fighter Squadron 27 / Group 2
29: German Fighter Squadron 27 / Group 3
30: German Fighter Squadron 54
31: German Fighter Squadron 26
32: German Fighter Squadron 77
33: German Night Fighter Squadron 1
34: German Fighter Squadron 400 / Group 1
35: German Fighter Squadron 400 / Group 2
36: German Fighter Squadron 54 / Group 1
37: German Fighter Squadron 54 / Group 3
38: German Fighter Squadron 54 / Group 3 / Platoon 9
39: German Fighter Squadron 5 / Group 5 / Platoon 14
40: Italian Regia Aeronautica Fighter Squadron
41: German Fighter Squadron 3
42: German Fighter Squadron 3 / Group 2
43: German Fighter Squadron 3 / Group 3

Air Units Future
01: German Flying Wing Squadron 1
02: German Marine Fighter Squadron

Have fun!

[asuser]

Now let's watch, how the badge logic for a slightly smaller unit structure looks like or would be implemented. As an example, I looked at the unit structure “Schwere Panzerabteilung 501…507” (Heavy Tank Battalion 501 ... 507). As a source for the implementation I have oriented on the book "Tigers in Combat II" by Wolfgang Schneider. The heavy tank battalions were sometimes alone, independent operating armored units that were largely equipped with the Tiger I and II heavy tanks. In the initial period of the war (until 1944) these were partially equipped with the Panzer III for the suppression of infantry. In the final phase of the war only the heavy tanks were used.

Well, how the structure looks now? The “Panzerabteilung” is in the hierarchy equivalent to the battalion. According to my source, these units contain three companies, each company contain three platoons, each platoon contain four tanks. In addition, each company contain a company commander- and a staff tank. Which makes a total of 14 tanks for each company. For the gameplay you could send three units, each with strength 14 to the battlefield. Badges structure would be 0 (no division), 0 (no battalion, it is determined by the badge), 1 ... 3 (1st -3rd company). For the presentation of the vehicles now no limits are set (see my thread "Pimp your icon!"). In addition, for example, an exchange tube can be indicated for the barrel like implemented for 3rd company (DCS: Indian Red for the primer paint). For the presentation I decided to use the badge of the 507, other badges are conceivable. The 507 was also known for painting on turret numbers with different heights. Be creative! That would be my suggestion:

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This system could also used for an example to implement soviet units. The example I will post here soon...stay tuned...


@cedonxp: Do you need some specific units or is the random publishing ok?


Greetings from Germany!

[cedonxp]

Random Publishing is ok. Thanks for the time and effort. I really appreciate all the effort.

[asuser]

As for the “Schwere Panzerabteilung” in the German army we can also present for the soviet units a badge structure. However, there are some things of the structure to observe. As a source the book "Stalin's Heavy Tanks 1941-1945” by Zaloga / Kinnear / Aksenov / Koshchatsev and a script „The Structure and Organization of the Red Army's Tank Forces“ by V.Potapov was used. For example, the terms are defined differently for regiment and battalion. The final phase of the war was the time, were heavy tank IS-2 used in so-called Guard heavy tank regiments. These regiments were conducted as part of a brigade or higher defined as independent tank unit. The regiments consisted of four companies, each with 5 tanks and also a lead tank. If a brigade then consisted of three regiments than that brings about 65 tanks in total.

If we now presented the structure of the Schwere Panzerabteilung 501 ... 507 (3 x 14 = 42 tanks), there would a equivalent of (4 x 5 +1 = 21) Tanks IS-2 are as a result. Then, to get not a strategic disadvantage for the game from the beginning, not 5 but 10 tanks could easily be chosen for the company strength. This could then be conducted with strength 10 on the battlefield for a Guard heavy tank company.

Unfortunately, the soviet units has not the variety of different unit badges, so starting with the highest level of Guard heavy tank units, the brigade. In 1942, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR introduced Guards ranks and Guards badges. The badge i used for is the Guard badge, seen on uniforms, tanks and fighter planes.

The structure can now be used at a famous unit, the 7th Guard heavy tank brigade, 104th Guard heavy tank regiment. This unit was involved in intense fighting in the final battle in the capital Berlin and could now receive the Guard badge numbers 7 (Brigade), 104 (regiment), 1 ... 4 (Company).

For a realistic presentation remains to note that the red stars were not so often used on the turret. There are more tactical signs, slogans, or vehicle numbers on photos to find. Here are also different types of presentation: 1 ... 21 consecutively numbered, three-digit number as on the German tanks (company, platoon, vehicle) and also the same system but with reverse order. Soviet tanks and other vehicles were not usually painted with a special camouflage, the paint were rather dark or olive green. To show some variety, different camo schemes from the DCS as well as self-designed camo scheme used for the presentation. The four companies now look like this for 1th and 2th company:

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…to be continued…

[asuser]

…and for 3th and 4th company:

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A similar structure could also used for other Guard tanks (T-34) and artillery (SU-122, 152) units. With more and more units summarized together we come to the structure of complete mechanized corps and armies. For the creativity the sky is the limit.

Feedback welcome!

Want to see more, e.g. also airplanes with "fighter squadrons"?

Greetings from Germany!

[asuser]

Badge Panel updated!

Greetings!

[asuser]

Of course, the latest weapon systems are needed for my Sealion campaign. One of these is the heavy battle tank Krupp Löwe with the new advanced infrared night fighting system Sperber/UHU II (sparrowhawk/owl). In addition to this, different camo schemes are tested. Some of the crews paint also aggressive fangs or animals on their vehicles! The first two vehicles of heavy tank battalion 150 are shown here:

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There's more to come...you can be excited...

Greetings!

[cedonxp]

I AMM!!!!

[asuser]

I will do my best ...

And now ... it is time to strengthen the air defense. After much research it was possible to construct the stable and accurately flying air defense missile "Rheintochter". The missile is controlled by radio signals. To equip larger units we initially fitted first a secret test command, the Ground/Air Rocket Battalion 1. The enemy was already completely surprised and shot down pilots spoke of a flak hell on earth...

It would be great if someone launching a new attack graphic and sound for this weapon ...

In another thread i asked about the function for this baby and most of all there was the recommendation to us it as a flak weapon and not as a kamikaze thing (like V1, V2), so here it is:

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3, 2, 1 - Fire!


To be continued...