ADT 2025: Asterix's Inaugural Diadochi Tournament (Full - reserves left)

[rpadilla1988]

PTOLEMY I SOTER (Ptolemaic 320-218)

numbers 8, 14, 21, 30

rpadilla1988; Good luck all!

[Asterix_von_TWC]

I'm in as (MONTY) PEITHON (Seleucid 302-301).

Random: 7,14,21,28

Thanks

Karvon

An honor to host someone who has done so much for our tournaments! Welcome Karvon! At 2000 I think that army list is a hidden gem.

[Asterix_von_TWC]

PTOLEMY I SOTER (Ptolemaic 320-218)

numbers 8, 14, 21, 30

rpadilla1988; Good luck all!

Welcome! Check your "allied" forces above.

4 factions left - when they are gone I will prep the league to give us an early start!

Keep in mind that these lists are maximum size, therefore low-cost units scale more and some of these lists are very strong at those sizes. Also keep in mind that PYRRHUS was perhaps the most legitimate successor to take over from Alexander!

LEONNATUS (Greek 280-228)
POLYPERCHON (Macedonian 320-261)
PHILIP SOGDIANOS (Indo-Greek 175-10)
PYRRHUS OF EPIRUS (Phyrric 280-275)

[Chris Townsend]

This is a great idea!

Sign me up for: PYRRHUS OF EPIRUS (Phyrric 280-275)

Random numbers (chosen randomly ) are: 6, 15, 17 and 19.

I am looking forward to the event!

Chris Townsend

[Asterix_von_TWC]

This is a great idea!

Sign me up for: PYRRHUS OF EPIRUS (Phyrric 280-275)

Random numbers (chosen randomly ) are: 6, 15, 17 and 19.

I am looking forward to the event!

Chris Townsend

Many of my favourite opponents are here! Check your complimentary armies and welcome!

Now we are really down to the final signups so I wont leave it too long! Lets see if we can get the final three in.

LEONNATUS (Greek 280-228)
POLYPERCHON (Macedonian 320-261)
PHILIP SOGDIANOS (Indo-Greek 175-10)

[mberisso]

I'm not sure if I understood each single rule but I'm in!

I choose POLYPERCHON (Macedonian 320-261)

Random numbers: 22 19 17 29

Thanks!

[Lauraleik]

Can I take PHILIP SOGDIANOS (Indo-Greek 175-10)?
random.org gave me 5, 19, 20, 23 (I ordered them for an easier reading)

[Asterix_von_TWC]

I'm not sure if I understood each single rule but I'm in!

I choose POLYPERCHON (Macedonian 320-261)

Random numbers: 22 19 17 29

Thanks!

Welcome my old opponent! Good choice... the last greek (not mohican)

[Asterix_von_TWC]

Can I take PHILIP SOGDIANOS (Indo-Greek 175-10)?
random.org gave me 5, 19, 20, 23 (I ordered them for an easier reading)

I think your opponents will be stunned... at 2000 this list has hidden strengths!

Thank you for the reading aid to my old eyes....

You are the bastard son of Alexander (no offence intended just plausible fact) with a lot of supporters!

That leaves 24 hours on poor Greek rebel LEONNATUS (Greek 280-228).....

This army at 2000 can outflank everyone with spear and hoplon! In bad terrain it beats Macedonians or is at least equal!

LEONNATUS (Greek 280-228) 24h left for someone to take this!

[Karvon]

How exactly is the challenge system going to work, given we have 5 armies to choose from?

Karvon

[Asterix_von_TWC]

How exactly is the challenge system going to work, given we have 5 armies to choose from?

Karvon

You have 4 auxilliary armies. You will declare 3 max at any point before a battle starts. Doesnt matter if home or away.... simply, you can use your diplomatic pull to get the allies in etc.

[Karvon]

How exactly is the challenge system going to work, given we have 5 armies to choose from?

Karvon

You have 4 auxilliary armies. You will declare 3 max at any point before a battle starts. Doesnt matter if home or away.... simply, you can use your diplomatic pull to get the allies in etc.

So is this a multi-step process? For example.

Player 1 issues a challenge with his standard force.
Player 2 responds with his standard force.
Player 1 decides to use one of his allies.
Player 2 decides to use one of his allies.

Karvon

[Asterix_von_TWC]

How exactly is the challenge system going to work, given we have 5 armies to choose from?

Karvon

You have 4 auxilliary armies. You will declare 3 max at any point before a battle starts. Doesnt matter if home or away.... simply, you can use your diplomatic pull to get the allies in etc.

So is this a multi-step process? For example.

Player 1 issues a challenge with his standard force.
Player 2 responds with his standard force.
Player 1 decides to use one of his allies.
Player 2 decides to use one of his allies.

Karvon

I am creating the matchups using random generation of seven games for each player.... they will be up with terrain random generated.. you can allocate your armies at any point prior to the challenge. In theory you could end up with two secondary armies versus each other, but the challenge has to be called out before (and therefore can generate a response)

[jaerho]

This tournament looks too fun to miss.

If I'm not too late, I will take LEONNATUS and his begrudging Greeks.

My random numbers are 5, 12, 23, 29.

[Asterix_von_TWC]

This tournament looks too fun to miss.

If I'm not too late, I will take LEONNATUS and his begrudging Greeks.

My random numbers are 5, 12, 23, 29.

You are in! Last past the post! Awesome and thanks! Will put up the lists tomorrow or Sunday so all understand clearly what is possible etc.

Sadly, if anyone else is interested we have reserves now.

[Karvon]

You have 4 auxilliary armies. You will declare 3 max at any point before a battle starts. Doesnt matter if home or away.... simply, you can use your diplomatic pull to get the allies in etc.

So is this a multi-step process? For example.

Player 1 issues a challenge with his standard force.
Player 2 responds with his standard force.
Player 1 decides to use one of his allies.
Player 2 decides to use one of his allies.

Karvon

I am creating the matchups using random generation of seven games for each player.... they will be up with terrain random generated.. you can allocate your armies at any point prior to the challenge. In theory you could end up with two secondary armies versus each other, but the challenge has to be called out before (and therefore can generate a response)

So then my example is probably going to be the most common path, at least as long as players have an ally option left, as players have no reason to initially start with an ally pick.

Are you going to designate home and away games as in HOML, with the away player issuing challenges? If not, the challenger will always be at a disadvantage. You'd need to increase the games played to 8 in order insure equal opportunities as home and away player.

Karvon

Karvon

[Asterix_von_TWC]

So is this a multi-step process? For example.

Player 1 issues a challenge with his standard force.
Player 2 responds with his standard force.
Player 1 decides to use one of his allies.
Player 2 decides to use one of his allies.

Karvon

I am creating the matchups using random generation of seven games for each player.... they will be up with terrain random generated.. you can allocate your armies at any point prior to the challenge. In theory you could end up with two secondary armies versus each other, but the challenge has to be called out before (and therefore can generate a response)

So then my example is probably going to be the most common path, at least as long as players have an ally option left, as players have no reason to initially start with an ally pick.

Karvon

The main reason would be terrain, yes... its a variant and trump card. At 2000 though, some of the allied armies can be numerically overwhelming as well.... some of those lists are excellent.

Its an experiment, but inspired by historical use of petty satarapies to augment the war effort. Should I require one battle where you use a secondary army? Maybe

[Karvon]

Also lauraleik has Mountain Indians twice, so probably should get a reroll for one of those.

Karvon

[Ironclad]

The main reason would be terrain, yes... its a variant and trump card. At 2000 though, some of the allied armies can be numerically overwhelming as well.... some of those lists are excellent.

Its an experiment, but inspired by historical use of petty satarapies to augment the war effort. Should I require one battle where you use a secondary army? Maybe

I hope this doesn't upset play balance too much. I love large battles but haven't got great experience of many 2000 ones other than noting that some armies have very limited selection options at that size.

My reading of ancient battles is that most of them took place in open terrain and that tactical tricks were limited and tended only to take place along that battlefront, often involving the cavalry/elephant wings. Yes there were occasional ambushes using terrain or a few buildings or ruins, but these were very rare in the Diadochi battles. I find the the most enjoyable battles in FOG 2 are when two equally matched armies slog it out in a lengthy and exhausting affray. This still gives scope for tactical skill but avoids the more extravagant stratagems that are sometimes introduced which in fairness can result in decisive results but are not always in the spirit of how most ancient historical battles played out.

The Diadochi period with its usually high proportion of infantry for extended conflict accompanied by opportunities for its less numerous cavalry/elephant components fits that more traditional scenario, hence its appeal.

[Asterix_von_TWC]

Also lauraleik has Mountain Indians twice, so probably should get a reroll for one of those.

Karvon

Typo thanks