New to Panzer Corps in 2023

[Jack59]

I am new to Panzer Corps 2 as of November 2023. I just have the basic game and have just finished the Poland campaign. I played these different scenarios with two generals with different traits each choosing different trees. The question that comes up, is picking traits cheating against the computer? Would not picking any traits be harder or easier? The AI does not pick its own traits. I can see picking different traits each time gives the player a different slant each game, opening up the enjoyment level of the puzzle. As far as far as I can tell the computer AI starts its same troop deployment in the same positions each time. I almost always won a scenario the first time. The next time I repeated the scenario with better intelligence and mixed up my starting initial unit deployments, thus wining sooner.

My first game not knowing what to do, I picked randomized traits. One of the negative traits was no replacements. I lost that game not realizing that meant I could not reinforce my troops either. The second try I won on turn 20. I retired that general, since I did not know how to play the game yet. Choosing a general level with limited prestige seems a better way to go.

[robman]

Choosing traits is key to the game. For the vanilla campaign, try Fear of Unknown and No Overstrength as negative traits (these affect basic gameplay the least) and experiment with different positive traits. “Panzer General” is selected by default, but there are many other (and in my opinion) better ways to spend those two points. Have fun!

[DefiantXYX]

The traits are hit and miss. By chosing crazy combinations you can have multiple playthroughs that feal really new and exciting. On the other side you can break the balance by picking some negative traits that are basically free points and some positive traits oder ridiculously overpowered.

Imo you should do a whole playthrough of the vanilla campaign without picking any crazy traits. You can adjust the basic difficulty if it feels to hard/easy. After that you should really start with the DLCs. They are amazing, aber tbh the game really start with the grand campaign.

[PanzerCro]

I am new to Panzer Corps 2 as of November 2023. I just have the basic game and have just finished the Poland campaign. I played these different scenarios with two generals with different traits each choosing different trees. The question that comes up, is picking traits cheating against the computer? Would not picking any traits be harder or easier? The AI does not pick its own traits. I can see picking different traits each time gives the player a different slant each game, opening up the enjoyment level of the puzzle. As far as far as I can tell the computer AI starts its same troop deployment in the same positions each time. I almost always won a scenario the first time. The next time I repeated the scenario with better intelligence and mixed up my starting initial unit deployments, thus wining sooner.

My first game not knowing what to do, I picked randomized traits. One of the negative traits was no replacements. I lost that game not realizing that meant I could not reinforce my troops either. The second try I won on turn 20. I retired that general, since I did not know how to play the game yet. Choosing a general level with limited prestige seems a better way to go.

No it isn't. For every positive trait you need to give up something. The more positives you want to have the biggest price you need to pay, like denied art or airforce. My traits currently in AO are : positive - Liberator, AA veteran, Force concentration, Killer team. Negative one's are Denied arty and trench slog.

[Jack59]

Thanks for the Information guys! I just finished playing the Spanish Civil war DSL. Each time I tried different traits I felt like I was cheating, so I played it without traits (vanilla). I noticed right away the game was more challenging. The AI made it difficult to surround units and capture equipment. Gathering prestige was also harder. Some times I think the briefing are deceiving.

The first battle that worried me was the Battle of the Ebro, since my lines collapsed and I was defeated. The briefing suggested that reinforcements may be coming late in the game. I checked some U-tube videos on the subject and noticed they started off with a lot more prestige($). Then I realized they played with enhanced by the traits. I feared maybe my lack of $ may be hampering me from completing the DSL. Restarting the battle with additional fighters and controlling the air did the trick. I held six objectives at the end of this defensive battle. Their were sure a lot of tanks on the other side of the Ebro to worry about!

Well the rest of the DSL was easier. Madrid fell on day 20 of 35. Now off to Czechoslovakia, playing vanilla. No super human traits for me. Thanks again for the advice.

[jeffoot77]

have you already played to panzer corps 1 ?

if not, you should play the first version; So better with all his mods. PC2 is so unrealistic.

[Retributarr]

have you already played to panzer corps 1 ?

if not, you should play the first version; So better with all his mods. PC2 is so unrealistic.

"Unrealistic"_Yes!, "nevertheless... still entertaining!"... I Agree!. If ever a PzC3 is ever developed... "Realism" based on actual historical proof of evidence of reality of that time-period needs to be strictly adhered too and portrayed or displayed.

For example: In "Barbarossa"... Russian forces "Never-Surrender-On Mass". Everyone fights to the Death... all the time!. There is rarely ever... if ever... any "Retreats"... by either side. Too much recently developed equipment is evident in great numbers on the Game-Screen...that shouldn't be there and was never historically actually realized... .

"Supply"_ "logistic" and "Replacement issues" are rarely if ever considered or applied!. "Morale" is not incorporated into the Game... to display or demonstrate the effectiveness of the combat units in the field.

Disruption of "Command and Control"... where it did take place... is never demonstrated... or implemented. And... So!... on it goes!.

[ErissN6]

How to play PC2?

_ In options set your general traits to 10, so you don't take bad ones (you'll regreat).
_ Don't use any other options (such as mortal heroes or limited stock), they were added late and are not balanced nor well fit for the scenarios of campaigns.
_ Play in the strategic map (the tactical map gives not good enough scape) and learn its hexe codes (such as strategic goals).

All features in general are very good ideas, but are to be fitted for PC3: in PC2 they are awfully integered.

[stormbringer3]

If you want to play an excellent game get Panzer Corps Gold. That game has "normal heroes", they are attack, defense, movement, initiative, range and spotting. The forum for it is still active.