GJS'44 Campaign Main Thread - Final June 16th 1944 Tournamen

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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting orders

Post by mlazar »

So in a reorg, can you empty out a brigade that only has 8 units left by moving them into a receiving brigade?
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting orders

Post by GottaLove88s »

Yes, that's correct... A BG with 8 units or less can re-org into a neighbouring BG (eliminating the first BG completely)...
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting orders

Post by GottaLove88s »

There are three important differences between a Brigade Re-organisation versus a Merger...

1. Merge consumes all units from both brigades. Brigade Re-org is limited to max 8 units in each direction.
2. Merge consumes all remaining moves for that turn. However, a Brigade Re-org is smaller scale and considered less disruptive, so it only consumes 1 move from both BGs.
3. In a Merger, the combined BG's name becomes that of the BG that contributes the most units. If both BGs contribute the same number of units, the Commander may choose which name the combined BG will take. However, in a Brigade Re-org, the receiving BG always keeps its name. (This makes a difference for retaining elite status for your BG's).
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting orders

Post by morge4 »

Jon, correct me if I'm wrong but, each BG can only have 32 units max, correct? So if you merge, you can only merge to the 32 unit limit?
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting orders

Post by GottaLove88s »

morge4 wrote:Jon, correct me if I'm wrong but, each BG can only have 32 units max, correct? So if you merge, you can only merge to the 32 unit limit?
Correct. BGs max at 32 always
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

JUNE 10th UPDATE

I have now received Orders and Bonus allocations from both sides... I will merge them at 12 midday London time today.
Changes/corrections will be accepted before then, but not afterwards...

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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

Allies won the dice throw...
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

Combined orders, as submitted

1. Move and merge 8/3cdn with the 6al/6 in Caen
1st) 192/21 attack but do not move to Hermanville

2. Move to abbaye, via hermanville and from there reorganize with Caen, the 22/7
2nd) II/726/716 send its 2 Mortars to II/22/21 (Re-organisation)

3. Reorganization with the 185/3 for the 30/79
3rd) II/736/716 moves to Lebisey Woods and merge with II/726/716

4. Attack/No move To Pegasus Bridge, 30/79
4th) 858/346 moves to Benouville

5. Move to Pegasus bridge vía Perriers, the 5Al/6
5th) Ost 411/716 moves to Abbaye

6. Move to Colonbelles vía Pegasus bridge 9/3Cdn
6th) II/12/12SS deploys in Villers-Bocage and moves to Cristot

7. Move to Cristot via Rauray and Tilly, the 27/3
7th) I/12/12SS deploys in Villers-Bocage and moves to Hottot-les-Bagues

8. Move to Tilly vía Thaon and Rauray, the 2Cdn
8th) 26/12SS moves to Caen

9. Move to Buron, the 8/3
9th) 25/12SS moves to Caen via Cagny

10. Move to Bieville vía Juno and Hillman battery, the 1/79
10th) 915/352 defend Ranville

11. Move to Hermanville vía Gold and Creully the 131/7
11th) 914/352 defend Pegasus Bridge

12. Move to Eterville vía tilly and cristot of the 231/50
12th) Ost 642/716 defend Bieville

13. Move to Creully the 9/3
13th) 125/21 defend Bourguebus

14th) II/22/21 defend Carpiquet

15th) II/744/711 defend Bayeux

German Bonuses
26/12SS - Air, Medic, Rally
25/12SS - Medic, Rally
914/352 - Air
Ost 642/716 - Arty and Rally
192/21 - Arty
II/744/711 - Arty and Rally
II/736/716 - Medic
Ost 411/716 - Medic

Allied Bonuses
6al/6 typhoon, artillery (owns rally and médic)
30/79 Typhoon, artillery, naval (owns Rally and Médic)
9/3Cdn médic and rally.
185/3 naval.
27/3 médic and rally.
5Al/6 artillery (owns medic and rally)
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

WEATHER FORECAST

June 10th - Clear
June 11th - Cloudy (fighter-bombers grounded)
June 12th - Cloudy
June 13th - Clear
June 14th - Clear
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

JUNE 10th AM

CONFIRMED MOVES

Caen: 8/3cdn merges with 6al/6
Carpiquet: II/726/716 sends 2 mortars to II/22/21
Benouville: 185/3 sends [A] to 30/79
Lebisey: II/736/716 merges with II/726/716
Hottot-les-Bagues: I/12/12SS
Tilly: 2Cdn
Buron: 8/3
Creully: 9/3

4 CONFIRMED BATTLES

Hermanville: 192/21 ASD v 27/3
Pegasus Bridge: 30/79 attack/no move AFD v 914/352
Bieville: 1/79 AFD v Ost 642/716
Cristot: II/12/12SS ASD v 231/50

2 DEPENDENT MOVES

Caen: If 22/7 wins in Abbaye, it is free to carry out its Brigade Re-org with Caen
Colombelles: If 30/79 defeats 914/352, then 9/3cdn passes to Colombelles

7 DEPENDENT BATTLES

Abbaye: If 27/3 wins, then 22/7 is free to pass through Hermanville and will fight and ME v Ost 411/716
Hermanville: If 192/21 wins, then 192/21 ASD v 22/7
Hermanville: If 192/21 wins again, then 192/21 ME v 131/7
Benouville: 858/346 ASD v survivors of 30/79
Pegasus Bridge: If 914/352 defeats 30/79, then 9/3 cdn fight AFD v 914/352
Caen: 26/12SS AFD v Merged 6al/6 +/- Re-org from 22/7
Caen 2: 25/12SS AFD v Survivors
Last edited by GottaLove88s on Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:21 pm, edited 3 times in total.
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

That's more or less it... WOW! A lot going on, and a lot of moves/battles dependent on June 10th AM... Wife is (literally) dragging me away from keyboard... Arrrrrrgh!! :evil: :roll: :lol:
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by joncorcuera »

Will not be in Hermanville a AFD since we havent moved the 27/3 jet?
Ok no problem, no need to fight your wife for the game.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by cavehobbit »

Jon, I believe your wife dragged you away from the keyboard before you could double check the moves :D
GottaLove88s wrote: CONFIRMED MOVES
Benouville: 185/3 sends [A] to 30/79 *** What is [A]? ***
Abbaye: Ost 411/716 *** Not a confirmed move as we need to know the result from Hermanville: 192/21 ASD v 27/3, as 22/7 could still pass through to Abbaye if 27/3 wins? ***

CONFIRMED BATTLES
Cristot: II/12/12SS ME v 27/3 *** Should be II/12/12SS ASD v 231/50, as 27/3's move is cancelled by 192/21? And as 231/50 is passing through Cristot the battle is an ASD. ***

DEPENDENT MOVES
Abbaye: See above.
Eterville: If 27/3 wins, then 231/50 passes through to Eterville *** See Cristot above ***
JC: Hermanville: 192/21 ASD v 27/3 is an ASD because 27/3 is about to depart.

But I could be wrong... :roll:
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

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Benouville: [A] will be the units that are being Brigade Re-orged (they have to be disclosed in Orders; they have been; I just haven't posted 'em yet... Wife! ;-))
Abbaye: Yes, you're right. If 22/7 gets to pass through to Abbaye, it will fight Ost 411/716 - so this is a Dependent Battle - it would be an ME if it happens; Brigade Re-org into Caen would happen after this battle (so Caen 1 can't happen until after Abbaye)
Cristot: You're right again, therefore there is no move to Eterville.

Sent from an Italian restaurant from my iPhone, lol...
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by joncorcuera »

Yes you are right i reread the rules and sounds youre completely right. Brrr i read the rules when I Started playing. And I am relearning them the hard way. Hermanville sounds like a ASD.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

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joncorcuera wrote:Will not be in Hermanville a AFD since we havent moved the 27/3 jet?
Ok no problem, no need to fight your wife for the game.
Simplistically, if a BG does not move during a turn, then it "defends" its sector. A defending BG wins AFD advantages.
If a BG is ordered to move, it can be intercepted or attacked while it is moving/withdrawing, suffering an ASD.
If a BG moves before it is intercepted, then it carries out its moves (hence the importance of prioritisation; by way of example, that's the reason that 30/79 is allowed to attack Pegasus, despite being itself attacked in Benouville afterwards)

If two BGs arrive in the same sector on the same day, and that sector is the final destination for both BGs, then it's an ME.
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by joncorcuera »

Yep clear. Thanks that and the entrape throught Villers Vocage i learned the hard way.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by GottaLove88s »

A lot of battles today!

What I'd say to both sides is that, remember, if you don't fancy your chances in any battles, check...
(i) that there is an empty, friendly owned sector adjacent
(ii) hold at least one flag at the end of the battle
so you can safely withdraw with most of your units intact... or...
(iii) negotiate a ceasefire

The trick is going to be, because the frontlines are becoming quite muddled up now, several BGs have nowhere to withdraw to, and must win or be dissolved...
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by cavehobbit »

Map updated. I think I got most of it right... :)
Arrows indicates moves depending on the outcome of the battles.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 10th - Awaiting received

Post by joncorcuera »

John if the 27/3 gwins in Hermanville gets to move to cristot?
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