Is the game winding down?

[WarHomer]

I haven´t checked up on earlier realease dates/intervals, but it seems to me that DLC`s for this game is coming out a lot slower than earlier.

The "large" allied campaign also contains both the US and UK, which in my opinion each could have warranted their own "large" campaign.

Are we experiencing the slow end to this game, or are there another explanation for this?

[cutydt02]

yes, it seems like the 3rd dlc of Allies will be the last for this game.
It has taken longer and longer to wait for next content for almost 2 years, clearly that the game is going to the end soon.

[WarHomer]

Thats is sad, although the game has been moving further and further away from what made it really unique, the land, naval and air core constellation.

[ColonelY]

It's true that the next DLC is a long time coming...

However, there is still a lot to do, in terms of content.
There was a discussion here: viewtopic.php?t=88657
And, together with historical scenarios, it may very well be possible to add some what-if scenarios here and there too…

Among the ideas put forward, here are those that I think would still be very interesting:

- Spanish campaign 1936-39 (then option to export German core force to “Blitzkrieg” DLC – which means that the player has to side with the Nationalists of Franco there, supported by both the Germans and the Italians).
We’ve an excellent mod (although unfortunately not entirely finished yet) called The Spanish Prelude (which can be found there https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewto ... 74&t=88783 ), in which the player sides with the Republicans against the Nationalists of Franco. This mod may be used as an useful help to develop another official DLC related to the same period.
Or, alternatively, perhaps “only” as an extensive tutorial before German GC, why not? (but it would be a pity), but at least with a few German unit could have some experience to next Blitzkrieg DLC. But then, as an extensive tutorial, it may appear before the Soviet GC too - we'll see about this later.

- Italian campaign 1936-41, as a mix between war in Etyopia and after against France and Greece in 1940 and at least in Africa until Afrika Korps arrive march 1941, (then option to export core force to “Sandstorm” DLC)

- More variations related to the Japanese, like a Japanese marinees Giretsu Kuteitai campaign 1941-44 (similar like the US marines campaign)

- France campaign DLC, hell yeah, something indeed perhaps like this:

French Campaign :

Act I : Prelude : Early 1939 / 1940 battles (Norway, Arras, Dunkirk)
Act II : Death or Dishonor : Choose between Vichy (Dakar, Syria, Madagascar, Torch) or Free French (Kufra, also Syria but on the other side , Bir-Hakeim, Tunisia). At the end of it, as historically, the Free French and the Vichy French army merge.
Act III : Redemption, with the Italian campaign : Corsica[Operation Vesuvius], then Monte Cassino//Garigliano. After this comes the Liberation of France campaign (Operation Dragoon, Liberation of Paris, March on Strassburg)
Finale : Race the Americans to Berchtesgaden. German resistance is only token but the player must move faster than the Americans !

Total : 13 levels to be played, 17 total. If too much, Madagascar and Free French Syria can probably be removed (so 12/15). Corsica may also be removed.

Notes :
- Plenty of new units, not only in 1939/1940 but all the sorts of infantry the Free French had to rely on (Goumiers, Tirailleurs Sénégalais, Infanterie Pacifique, French Foreign Legion). Also, Camel Cavalry !
- In the tech tree, the French have to choose whether they are going to use US equipment or UK equipment.
- Kufra was a small battle historically, almost a skirmish, but it was the first battle of the Free French and is famous in France for the Oath of Kufra, where General Leclerc asked his troops to
"Swear not to lay down arms until our colors, our beautiful colors, float on the Strasbourg Cathedral"

- Finland from Soviet side as prelude to Soviet Grand campaign. OR a practice campaign - the Big Excercise held in Dec 1940 by STAVKA simulating fight between the USSR and Germany (of course fictional and biased - like in reality)
Or, rather, a mix, as it has been suggested here:

I expect the soviet campaign:
-part 1: before the storm. Training camp at spanish civil war, then crush japanese at khalkhyn gol, attack poland from behind. Of course winter war is the last
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But I also really hope that the developers aren´t finished with the pacific theater. Having core air, sea and land is really what makes this game awesome IMO.

Maybe the original US and JAP, and even the BRIT (Burma Road) campaigns could be expanded with more missions. Those were really awesome and I wouldn´t mind playing them again and again if there were more (new missions) in between the existing. The entire pacific war being over in 12 missions seems a bit lackluster and a waste.

- And what about a Kingdom of Thailand DLC? That’s a brand new idea, isn’t it?
As DLC, a new campaign, with exoticism, challenge, centered on the only country in the region not to have been colonized by an European power... a people, however, who will be put to the test... I named the "Kingdom of Taihland"! (1 DLC)
And it will combine all components with core units: land, air & naval!
Framework? Roughly from 1940 to 1942.
1st part (essentially historical): the Thai Blitzkrieg against the French Indochina troops to recover territories snatched away only a few decades ago! Land, air, naval means... This can easily lead to at least 3 different scenarios, up to the "mediating" intervention of Japanese troops (which in itself could offer some unprecedented variants).
2nd part, tactical choice for the player (partly historical, partly "what if"): the Kingdom is isolated on the map, between the British on one side and the Japanese on the other... On which side will the player ally himself? Direct consequence: Receiving some immersive and relevant core units. Campaign branching, at least 2 or 3 senarios for each branch. Easy to implement. One could also imagine the creation and intervention of a Thai Expeditionary Force in support of the Allies chosen by the player, which would allow "at will" to add a few additional scenarios in "what if" mode (or historical mode as Thailand did actually really help the Japanese in their Malayan campaign ).
3rd part (essentially historical, but perhaps happening a little later than historically): the Japanese invasion of Thailand, or strong attempt of invasion at least... in punitive operation mode in case of alliance with the British or in treason mode in case of alliance with the Japanese (the latter being wary of a reversal always possible and, therefore...)... To end the campaign, the DLC on a positive note, it should still be possible for the player to victoriously resist the Japanese invasion attempts! (After all, if the resistance is great enough, they might prefer to stall, to keep the status quo...)
(Wish to read some info about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand_in_World_War_II )

- Italian late campaign DLC too…

I’d like also an Italian late campaign that start with operation Husky, defence of sicily, and after that player can choice between stay with axis and defend italian peninsula by Allied invasion from Salerno to Gothic line (RSI) or sign alliance with Allied and help them till from Salerno to Gothic line and liberation of north of Italy. If choice RSI player can use italian late and also german equipement, if choice Allied can use their equipement...

(With Italian core units that could be imported from “Sandstorm” DCL, of course.)
At some points, too Italian naval battles in the Mediterranean Sea with the carrier Aquila…

- An "Australian campaign DLC" would offer tons of opportunities as well, in addition to a somewhat unusual approach.
"Almost a million Australians, both men and women, served in the Second World War. They fought in campaigns against Germany and Italy in Europe, the Mediterranean and North Africa, as well as against Japan in south-east Asia and other parts of the Pacific." (https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/second- ... %20Pacific. )


And more, much, much more.

There are a lot of ideas left to be explored! A lot!

[Pwnerade]

I'd like a Royal Navy/Allied Atlantic naval campaign. Like Kriegsmarine, but as the Allies, and no fantastically a-historical scenarios.

[Epperaliant]

I am all for an Italian campaign!

[JohnSmirnov]

The development of new DLC is so slow because they are more busy with Starship Troopers Terran Command.

I really don't like the idea of the last part of Allied trilogy being the last DLC, but I can see that being the case.

If my memory is correct, they had a DLC for Chinese in plans. It also would be awesome to see DLC about Yugoslavia. A really underrate and overlooked part of WW2.

[terminator]

It"s a long way to...the third and last chapter of a trilogy of DLCs featuring World War II from the Allied perspective.

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Propaganda poster trying to ridicule the difficult progression of the allied armies in Italy, comparing its speed to that of a snail.

[ColonelY]

The development of new DLC is so slow because they are more busy with Starship Troopers Terran Command. Ah? Ok, thanks for this info

I really don't like the idea of the last part of Allied trilogy being the last DLC neither do I , but I can see that being the case.

If my memory is correct, they had a DLC for Chinese in plans. Oh, that would be great - lots of potential there! It also would be awesome to see DLC about Yugoslavia. A really underrate and overlooked part of WW2. Indeed, and this could be very interesting as well...(*)

(*) Yugoslavia, despite an early declaration of neutrality, signs the Tripartite Pact, forming an alliance with Axis powers Germany, Italy and Japan.

But later, as a pro-Allied government was estabished in Yugoslavia and as the stalling Italian invasion of Greece (launched in October 1940) needed support, Hitler launched an assault in order to overthrow this recently established pro-Allied government.

Thus, on 6th April 1941, the German Army, supported by Hungarian and Bulgarian forces, attacked Yugoslavia and Greece. Yugoslavia was dismembered by the German, Italian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian armies, each of which occupied or annexed different parts of the state. ... Later, with support from the Allies, they systematically drove the Germans out of the Balkans.

In-between, there was of course the British Expeditionary Force in Greece, etc.
Then, in Yugoslavia, there was a war of resistance, with differents groups, some communists, some not (as often at that time)...

Later, I quote: "By August 1944 the Red Army had advanced through Romania and into the Balkans. The Germans in Greece and Yugoslavia, in danger of being cut off, retreated into Austria and Hungary.

Allied troops landed in Greece in October, but they saw little fighting as the Germans were in full retreat. The resistance had already liberated most of the country. Tito's Partisans had done the same in Yugoslavia and entered Belgrade several hours before Soviet forces arrived."

(More info here: https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/war-Balkans )

A Yugoslavia DLC, some great potential indeed.

Perhaps it could also include Greece?

[ColonelY]

[...] Propaganda poster trying to ridicule the difficult progression of the allied armies in Italy, comparing its speed to that of a snail.

Indeed! This reminds me of some awesome poping-up events during the custom Free France campaign (that can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=374&t=97262 - just check it out, guys! ).

[Pwnerade]

Some Yugoslav Partisans action could be very fun and challenging!

[WarHomer]

I understand peoples enthusiams for more, but the thread was to garner insight as to the end of the game or not.

Should there be more coming, I would personally hope for something containing both land, naval and air core play.

[terminator]

The development of new DLC is so slow because they are more busy with Starship Troopers Terran Command.

Starship Troopers Terran Command must have its own development team.

I really don't like the idea of the last part of Allied trilogy being the last DLC, but I can see that being the case.

Hopefully not...

If my memory is correct, they had a DLC for Chinese in plans. It also would be awesome to see DLC about Yugoslavia. A really underrate and overlooked part of WW2.

There is already a DLC called "Morning Sun" with the Second Sino-Japanese war.

[terminator]

By launching the game today, I would have liked to see another image on the left with the title "COMING SOON"...

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[Shards]

Well, I currently see this

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[JohnSmirnov]

There is already a DLC called "Morning Sun" with the Second Sino-Japanese war.

Yes, but it's a Japanese campaign.

[terminator]

If my memory is correct, they had a DLC for Chinese in plans. It also would be awesome to see DLC about Yugoslavia. A really underrate and overlooked part of WW2.

A Chinese campaign during the last World War, I know nothing about it and I think it was never done to my knowledge in a wargame (?)

[cutydt02]

Chinese campaign will come with a bunch of political problem that regular devs never want.
You can just play as german or japan, though they made war crime, no one cares. But when we talk about china-jap war, we must PICK A SIDE.
Communist party’s army ? Very safe choice but will be super boring coz they’re nothing but a super minor force in ww2.
China Republic Army ? Main player, an accurate pick for historical reason. They clashed with both communist party (those then won the civ war and created the China we all know for now) and japanese. And for someone dont know, Chinese players (eg: on steam) are a little…sensitive.

[JohnSmirnov]

If my memory is correct, they had a DLC for Chinese in plans. It also would be awesome to see DLC about Yugoslavia. A really underrate and overlooked part of WW2.

A Chinese campaign during the last World War, I know nothing about it and I think it was never done to my knowledge in a wargame (?)

Not surprising. Second Sino-Japanese War is largely ignored outside of China. Not many people even know about Chinese Expeditionary Force that assisted Allies in the Burma campaign.

[JohnSmirnov]

Chinese campaign will come with a bunch of political problem that regular devs never want.
You can just play as german or japan, though they made war crime, no one cares. But when we talk about china-jap war, we must PICK A SIDE.
Communist party’s army ? Very safe choice but will be super boring coz they’re nothing but a super minor force in ww2.
China Republic Army ? Main player, an accurate pick for historical reason. They clashed with both communist party (those then won the civ war and created the China we all know for now) and japanese. And for someone dont know, Chinese players (eg: on steam) are a little…sensitive.

I don't see how it would be more "problematic" than a campaign in which you play as Japanese against Chinese, which they already made long ago.