Continuing the discussion from the 'put your unit requests here' page
T2_2112 wrote:BiteNibbleChomp wrote:A couple of medieval requests for the Mongol mod. Post them here please:
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Chinese Spearmen

Chinese Peasants (Armed with something like a rake)

Cloud unit (aircraft, used as Mongol recon for the Great Wall scenario, but making it not look unusual on the battlefield - I'm not adding Zeppelins here!)

Mini Catapult

This Thing:
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For spearman
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=44693
captainjack wrote:BiteNibbleChomp wrote:Cloud unit (aircraft, used as Mongol recon for the Great Wall scenario, but making it not look unusual on the battlefield - I'm not adding Zeppelins here!) Mini Catapult This Thing:
Perhaps you could use a large kite with a man attached for the aerial scout.
As for "This Thing", I have seen something on You Tube - possibly originally History Channel - where the team was reproducing old Chinese weapons from weapons manuals. They made a very convincing flamethrower that bore a very strong resemblance to "This Thing."
They also had an item on a ridiculously large siege catapult. They didn't make a full sized one but the work they did indicated that the claimed range of about a mile was plausible. I can't recall now if it was calculations only or if they included some scale working models.
Are you doing rockets or is that a bit later than your period?
Spearmen are great, I'll have to convert them to PzC format then (or find a friend to do so).
'This thing' is actually some sort of Cannon unit, which will probably end up the 2nd best unit in the mod (only to the H'wacha). It won't be used in the W. Xia scenario that will come with the beta version, but I want to use it for Beijing ('Zhongdu as it was known in 1215) and Kaifeng.
Rockets are going to be included as well (again not in the beta), where you will fight them in Kaifeng and Xiangyang, before using them in Russia and Western Europe. This sort of thing was used in the battle for Kaifeng:

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and later the Hwacha will become an important part of your horde. The rocket platform in the above picture should be made into a unit as well, but at this stage I am more concerned about the graphics that will be in the earlier battles.
The cloud will be used as a way of showing the knowledge that the Mongols gained from a defecting Jin general at the Great Wall in 1211, I don't think the Mongols knew about Kites then, they might have after conquering China though.
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