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[scott_mathieson]

hi so i tried a run through where your units would be reduced and had to worry about losing prestige etc, long story short it didn't work using combination of things with collector.

I had thought with the new limited stock it could be the answer but alas its unusable so i have decided to try my own version of it with some extra rules. The play through will start from Warndt forest as SCW i felt would be to hectic on reduced supply so i played through it to get reasonable core with teh plan of starting at after czechoslovakia but i forgot i couldnt reload the start to check numbers etc as i'm using iron man

so my extra rules:

When upgrading you can only have 1 unit from whatever is top 2 units of the tier (based on prestige. This is for recon, anti tank, anti air, fighters and strat bombers, Tact bombers have 2 tiers one for bombers one for fighter bombers, for tanks 2 tiers support tanks from pzII through pzIv, battle tanks pz3, and when time comes heavy tanks tigers/panthers. artillary 2 streams guns and rockets. infantry i already have large core which will stay as it can only be ugraded to 43 version, exception being the cavalry which can be upgraded to paratroopers only.

Gifts units not to be used/taken, in the sense of limited supply doesnt really make sense so decide to just avoid them

Supply restricted to whatever can be stolen plus german units units which intial supply then supply each turn, based on general amounts real life and potential for overpowered.

Transport only 1 unit of type can have top transport every one else 2nd top accept where only one exists but that takes up top slot.

intial supply levels first figure is initial supply and second resupply each turn, stolen units and prototypes have only initial supply

bruckenpionere 20 10
kavallerie 20 20
pionere 40 20
grenadiers 40 20
wehr 40 30
pz Ia 20 20
pz Ib 20 20
pz IIc 20 20
Pz 35T 40 20
Pz 38TA 40 20
BT5 61
T26 122
Trubia 65
sdkfz 231 25 10
sdkfz 222 20 20
BA6 52
unl-35 88
3.7 pak 25 10
sdkfz 10/4 20 5
2cm flak 38 20 5
3.7 cm flak 20 5
8.8 cm flak 20 5
20mm m33 39
7.5cm fk 30 5
10.5 cm lefh 40 10
15cm sfh 30 8
strumpanzer 25 5
21cm mrs 20 5
303 mm 29
105 mm m22 25
122m m10/30 67
152 mm m10/30 67
bf 109e 20 10
I-16 54
storch 20 10
ju 87B 20 10
bf110c 20 10
he 111 h2 20 5
do 172 20 5
ju 88a 15


game set up: iron man, europe on a shoestring, mortal heroes allowing me +5 trait points

positive traits
Infantry General
Panzer general
industry connections
deep recon
operational inititive
battle academy
deadly grasp
flexible command
killer team
terrain expert

negative traits
inept logistics
poor maintenace
trench slog
fear of unkown

hopefully this will slow me down as i tend to race through the war like a pirate (sharpe quote) relying on heroes and endless reinforcements on OS units.

starting core

Infantry

1st Grenadier
2nd Grenadier
1st Kavallerie
2nd Kavallerie
3rd Kavallerie
4th Kavallerie
1st Pioniere
2nd Pioniere
1st Wher
2nd Wher
3rd Wher
4th Wher

Panzers

1st Pzabt ** 38(t)a
2nd Pzabt ** T-26
3rd Pzabt ** T-26
4th Pzabt ** T-26
5th Pzabt ** Trubia
6th Pzabt ** Pz IB
7th Pzabt Pz IIC
8th Pzabt *Pz IIC

Recon

1st Aufkabt ** SdKfz
2nd Aufkabt ** SdKfz
3rd Aufkabt ** SdKfz
4th Aufkabt ** SdKfz
5th Aufkabt ** SdKfz
6th Aufkabt ** SdKfz

Anti Tank

1st Panzerjäger 3.7mm Pak
2nd Panzerjäger 3.7mm Pak
3rd Panzerjäger 3.7mm Pak
4th Panzerjäger 3.7mm Pak

Artillary

1st Feldhaubitze ** 10cm leFH
2nd Feldhaubitze ** 10cm leFH
3rd Feldhaubitze 10cm leFH
4th Feldhaubitze 10cm leFH
5th Feldhaubitze * 122mm m10/30

1st schwere Feldhaubitze * 15cm sFH 18
2nd schwere Feldhaubitze ** 15cm sFH 18
3rd schwere Feldhaubitze ** 21cm mrs 18

ant- air

1st Flugzeugabwehrkanone * 2cm flak 38
2nd Flugzeugabwehrkanone * 2cm flak 38
3rd Flugzeugabwehrkanone 2cm flak 38
4th Flugzeugabwehrkanone 2cm flak 38
5th Flugzeugabwehrkanone ** 8.8cm flak 36
6th Flugzeugabwehrkanone ** 8.8cm flak 36
7th Flugzeugabwehrkanone 8.8cm flak 36
8th Flugzeugabwehrkanone 8.8cm flak 36

fighters

1st Jagdgeschwader * BF 109E
2nd Jagdgeschwader ** BF 109E
3rd Jagdgeschwader * BF 109E
4th Jagdgeschwader * BF 109E

fighter bomber

1st Zerstörer BF 110C
1st Zerstörer BF 110C
1st Zerstörer BF 110C
1st Zerstörer BF 110C

air recon

1st air recon storch
2nd air recon storch
3rd air recon storch
4th air recon storch

dive bomber

1st Sturzkampfflugzeug ** ju 87a
2nd Sturzkampfflugzeug ** ju 87a
3rd Sturzkampfflugzeug * ju 87a
4th Sturzkampfflugzeug ** ju 87a

strat bombers

1st Bombengeschwader He 111h2
2nd Bombengeschwader ** Do 17z
3rd Bombengeschwader * Do 17z
4th Bombengeschwader Do 17z

starting heroes

Aggressive counter attack
no retaliation x2
Flag killer
Fearsome reputation x2
tank killer
learns from mistakes x2
hit n run
rapid fire 1.5
thorurough preperation
kerscher
vigilant
butcher
ignores entrenchment
lethal attack
fast deployment
aiming assistant
fast learner
field repairs
ignore entrenchment
artillary support
galland

[scott_mathieson]

so onto the forest

core

Infantry

1st Kavallerie
2nd Kavallerie
3rd Kavallerie (learns from mistakes, fearsome rep, ignores entrenchment)
4th Kavallerie (learns from mistakes, butcher, ignores entrenchment)
1st Pioniere (fearsome rep, rapid 1.5x, no retaliation)
2nd Pioniere (vigilant, no retaliation, flag killer)

Panzers

1st Pzabt ** 38(t)a (kerscher, artillary support, hit and run)

Recon

1st Aufkabt ** SdKfz
2nd Aufkabt ** SdKfz

Artillary

1st Feldhaubitze ** 10cm leFH
4th Feldhaubitze 10cm leFH (fast deployment, fast learner)

1st schwere Feldhaubitze * 15cm sFH 18
2nd schwere Feldhaubitze ** 15cm sFH 18

ant- air

1st Flugzeugabwehrkanone * 2cm flak 38
2nd Flugzeugabwehrkanone * 2cm flak 38
5th Flugzeugabwehrkanone ** 8.8cm flak 36 (field repairs, tank killer, aiming assistance)


fighters

1st Jagdgeschwader * I-16 (aggressive counter attack, through preperation)
2nd Jagdgeschwader ** BF 109E (galland)



air recon

4th air recon storch

dive bomber

2nd Sturzkampfflugzeug ** ju 87a
4th Sturzkampfflugzeug ** ju 87a

strat bomber

2nd Bombengeschwader Do 17z (lethal attack)

[scott_mathieson]

o this has always been a bad map for me, this time its a wake upcall, lost 3 heros hit n run, no retaliation and ignores entrenchment.

really goingto have to think on this a bit more and slow down. need to be fast learner lol.